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IHB
Getting like an electricians forum. Almost.
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DHTiling
So we also cannot protect our trade ..?... you go ahead and make it something it isn't but i am sick to the back teeth of i can do that trades peeps who naff up customers jobs and then come here expecting to be told how to do it right .. he took the advice of a builder and he has tiled for a few yrs he said ... so who is to blame..
We as Pro tilers are competing against these have a go not got a clue muppets .. might sound harsh i know but it is the truth.. i have helped countless peeps on here on how to do jobs but ask first and not go ahead and tile it on the say of a builder...
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DHTiling
Oh and this seems to me to ok to have my or anyone elses say..
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Concrete guy
Most new readers would switch off after page one, never mind two....or three...
Point made - move on.
Sometimes you just have to look at the bigger picture.
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ian158
Was this forum set up only for pro-tilers ?...if your fed up with giving advice, and multi-trade cowboys (opps that me), which are taking your work.should it be that the likes of us should be banned ?..i'm actually getting a lot of work now and considering getting a tiler to do my tiling as i'm getting a bit fed up with it...
what, your a multi trade cowboy..?...lol
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DHTiling
Did i say i was fed up of giving advice... ?.. i said i was sick of so called trades taking on jobs they know naff all about... so before you have a dig get it right..
Does 61,000 posts look like i hate giving advice.. another multi trader .. in the words of a mate.. I have poo'd em all :lol:
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ian158
no..it seems muti-trades are jack of all trades..master of none..apparently.
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mbcmultitrade
Thanks ATS.
Also, Dave, I've been a member for a while, but I hardly ever come on here, but I understand your frustration. It must be difficult being better than everyone else.
Like I said before, this incident is a first, and definitely a last. I am aware this is a schoolboy error within the tiling trade, and a lesson has been learned. Please spare me with any of your further angry rants and help me some real advice in rectifying this situation:
I plan on taking up the UFH and 6mm ply and intend on using Nicobond 6mm tile backer, board fixed down with polyurethane glue and 25mm screws and washers directly on top of the chip board floor. Do I need to prime the backer boards before tiling on top? Will 6mm tile backer board eridacate the problem of tiles moving/grout cracking? I only plan on doing this once so I want to get it right.
Also, Dave, I've been a member for a while, but I hardly ever come on here, but I understand your frustration. It must be difficult being better than everyone else.
Like I said before, this incident is a first, and definitely a last. I am aware this is a schoolboy error within the tiling trade, and a lesson has been learned. Please spare me with any of your further angry rants and help me some real advice in rectifying this situation:
I plan on taking up the UFH and 6mm ply and intend on using Nicobond 6mm tile backer, board fixed down with polyurethane glue and 25mm screws and washers directly on top of the chip board floor. Do I need to prime the backer boards before tiling on top? Will 6mm tile backer board eridacate the problem of tiles moving/grout cracking? I only plan on doing this once so I want to get it right.
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ian158
do you need washers ? i never use them on floors..only on walls..priming the cement board wont do any harm....
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I personally would take it all back to the joists then 18mm ply before any other prep, adding noggins where needed
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DHTiling
Point 1 :
If you were unsure it would have been wise as a member to come on here and check would it not ..?
Point 2 :
Not at all , it is called being a tiler by trade..
You need to take the lot up and eradicate any deflection in the floor first , simply boarding over might not do this.. then yes you can use a stable board , i'e' a cement board and lay the ufh on this and encapsulate the ufh in a suitable slc and tile on that... in the future do not take the word of a builder ... simples as that..
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The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP
I can see where Dave is coming from and the other tiling pros, I can plaster, render, screed, lay bricks, do a bit of plumbing or joinery work, I can also juggle. But I am a time served real deal tiler, that is what I do, I would not dream of competing with other trades on their terms.
The phrase multitrader offends me to be honest, they used to be called jack of all trades, master of none, in this climate why are we subjecting the public to these ongoing disasters we read about them every night. Why can't we all stick to what we know?
Tiling when done right is not only a very skilled trade, but borders on being art. Sorry if this offends some people, but I don;t give a rats behind. I along with other members of this forum who are true craftsmen do resent our trade being diluted by wannabees. End of rant:mad2:
The phrase multitrader offends me to be honest, they used to be called jack of all trades, master of none, in this climate why are we subjecting the public to these ongoing disasters we read about them every night. Why can't we all stick to what we know?
Tiling when done right is not only a very skilled trade, but borders on being art. Sorry if this offends some people, but I don;t give a rats behind. I along with other members of this forum who are true craftsmen do resent our trade being diluted by wannabees. End of rant:mad2:
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Thank you Dave. Would you suggest removing the chipboard and replacing with 18mm ply prior to installing the tile backer?!
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DHTiling
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DHTiling
I am a big believer in belt and braces .. so yes if that option is there then do it.
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ian158
if i didn't multitrade..and i stuck to one trade i would have maybe 3 days work a week..as it stands i work 5-6 days a week..theres tiling and there's tiling...there are many tiling jobs i would not even entertain...but tiling a shower or a bath..or a kitchen with...say a std not to fancy tile..i will do it...which is the majority of my work...that doesn't make me a cowboy...if the customer is happy and you never have to go back for snagging..isn that considered job done ?..everyone has different stds..theres good tilers and bad... as in every trade.....
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but that's the point mate, you don't exceed your comfort zone, the problem is the wanabees that havnt got a clue what there doing...
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mbcmultitrade
Ian I agree. I specialise in kitchens & bathrooms, supplied and fitted - hence the name 'multi trade'. Maybe if I'd have called myself MBC kitchens and bathrooms, it wouldn't have got so many people's backs up? I am not a professional tiler however i have done fair bit of tiling. This is the ONLY floor I ever had problem with, although the only floor involving 6mm ply. I took a chance, and failed. I'll be putting it right, at my expense..
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says page not found when I click on the link...?
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Theres more diy'ers doing botch jobs than cowboys that are taking your trade away..with all the sheds selling the stuff to do it with as well..with fancy JML type videos and youtube saying how easy it is !!!!
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Also i would had that some customers like the fact you can multitrade..one person coming in the house...not waiting for other trades..I quoted 5 jobs last week and got 4 of them...
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Try again...
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I know I should start to multi trade , I have the skills to multi trade in various fields such as pasting, joinery, painting but the truth is, I'm a tiler and I'd personally feel gutted at having to multi trade. I'm not knocking anyone who has the skills for multi trade and making a good living from it. I'd rather be an expert in one job rather than really good in lots.
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basic errors have messed this job up, over boarding a wooden floor is a 15mm MINIMUM British standard and that is just the start.
the problem is unlike gas/electric your not going kill anyone by not following these basic standards.
until tiling is respected by builders/plumbers/diy property maintenance people, then this sort of thing is just gonna keep on happening time and time again.
i do work for a few builders and constantly trying to cut corners, but while my sign written van is outside it will not happen on my watch
the problem is unlike gas/electric your not going kill anyone by not following these basic standards.
until tiling is respected by builders/plumbers/diy property maintenance people, then this sort of thing is just gonna keep on happening time and time again.
i do work for a few builders and constantly trying to cut corners, but while my sign written van is outside it will not happen on my watch
a tiler is a tiler a plumber is a plumber a joiner is a joiner an electrician ,why can we not just stick to our own trades ,i do and i get sick of seeing otherwise ,i have had a peson on the phone 4 days on the trot asking me for advice because a plumber has tiled her bathroom walls and floor ,floor in mosaic,underfloor heating wire mosaic strait over it she sent me twenty pictures never seen as bad ,makes me sick and may get us all a bad name if customers think we all do it the same way ,my opinion ,stick to what you know if you cant do it dont do it
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The work for your own trade is out there. In no uncertain terms you are taking work from the respective trades. Get off ya *** and look for it. Haha
Any pictutes of this floor so we can see your setting out and quality of tiling
Any pictutes of this floor so we can see your setting out and quality of tiling
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