need advice about job i just looked at

[SteveP]

just been to my first job quote. few things

1. the tiles are 450 x 310 and they have there own adhesive spacers grout thing is the adhesive they got is tub from Aldi. should i use there own adhesive ?

2. also i will have to apply adhesive straight over hot and cold pipes as they are bare so my thinking is i would have to use a multi flex over hot pipe.

3. there shower tray is 2.5cm away from wall on 1 side and 1.5 cm on other he asked me if i could tile so that the tiles would come down wall at a angle not to happy about doing this what do you think? Would a trim fit or would it still leave gap?

heres few pics

havn't gave price for this job yet

there a window, door ,small sink, shower taps (would it b better taking taps off or leave as they already fitted by plumber?)

overall 17.6 m2

was thinking £220 without materials

need advice asap please

cheers

steve

 

[DHTiling]

looking at those photos steve that room needs serious attention.
firstly i would dry line the whole room in moisture resistant plaster board.
taking great care to get this flat ,( i use a long strait edge to tamp the boards flat )
tank the walls within the shower area, Silicon the shower tray to get it water tight.
it would be better to take all sanitaryware out, i.e. sink,toilet.much better finish.
then use a flexible wall adhesive i.e. bal whitestar and grout with bal micro flex wall grout. or any equivelant of these products.
Tell the customer thats what needs doing to walls regards the drylining and if they say not then walk away .. p.s cant believe anybody wolud expect a tiler to tile that room without doing anything to remedy them. GOOD LUCK.

oh and as for a price i'd say about £380.00 for tiling only. drylining extra.

 

[SteveP]

cheers

now you say i think i will walk away as would be a nightmare trying to get the tiles to do as the customer wants and would not look very good and with me trying to build a reputation.

think i will telephone the customer and ask them to get it drylined or even plastered explain why.
see what they say then.


steve

 

[DHTiling]

ya better off steve because if you take it on without doing anything then all leaks will be down to you mate.

 

[kapitan]

spot on advice once again dave!!! :wink_smile: although on tiles that size i would use a spf!!

 

[formula one]

hi steve just add the same today told the customer get the walls sorted out or find a new tiler some jobs are not worth it mate

 

[kapitan]

the thing is lads you must be able to fix walls yourself or you are gonna lose a lot of work!!

 

[SteveP]

just phoned they asked me if i could do it i've never done it before so got me cousin going to look and give them a price tomorrow.
then we'll see where we at told them that i wouldn't want to do the job the way it is and wouldn't want to take it on if i'm not 100% happy the way it is going to look.

Steve how you doing m8 you had much business?

stevep

 

[Varley]

I agree with the lads, if you can't make good the walls and the customer won't get them sorted walk away, that looks like quite a big job for your first one m8, just be carefull :wink_smile:

 

[wivers]

What the "$&^%*^()^&$(&%(& was that!!! That wasn't a bathroom it was a bombsite!!!!

Tell the customer to wedge their head in the hole between the shower tray and the wall, whilst u repeatedly kick them up their dumb ***!!

How can a customer even contemplate tilng straight over that ****e??

The thing is someone else will go in there (probably Polish!!) and do it! When they do , and it all comes crashing down on top of Mrs Smith whilst she's baring her cheeky behind in the shower then you can go in and say "told ya so u pair of elephant testicles" and do the job how it was meant to be done!!!

Good luck. 🙂


Sorry i've had a ****e day 🙂

 

[DevonR]

What the "$&^%*^()^&$(&%(& was that!!! That wasn't a bathroom it was a bombsite!!!!

Tell the customer to wedge their head in the hole between the shower tray and the wall, whilst u repeatedly kick them up their dumb ***!!

How can a customer even contemplate tilng straight over that ****e??

The thing is someone else will go in there (probably Polish!!) and do it! When they do , and it all comes crashing down on top of Mrs Smith whilst she's baring her cheeky behind in the shower then you can go in and say "told ya so u pair of elephant testicles" and do the job how it was meant to be done!!!

Good luck. 🙂


Sorry i've had a ****e day 🙂

So what exactly are you trying to say here?

:wink_smile:

 

[Varley]

LMFAO wivers...Bad day m8?🙂

 

[brian c]

HI STEVEP,by reading between the lines it sounds like they want the job done quick as they have called you back and also asking to bring the bottom tile out to meet the shower tray,they obviously dont have a scooby doo m8.Furthermore they probably want it done cheap.

My advice to you would be go back and tell them exactly what the boys have told you to do above and say you dont want the job unless its done your way ie.boarding out ,tanking,removal of sanitaryware etc

 

[DHTiling]

just phoned they asked me if i could do it i've never done it before so got me cousin going to look and give them a price tomorrow.
then we'll see where we at told them that i wouldn't want to do the job the way it is and wouldn't want to take it on if i'm not 100% happy the way it is going to look.



Thats the way mate, be upfront with the custmer and they'll appreciate your honesty.
good prep work makes life easier for you. GOOD LUCK hope it goes well.. dave!!

 

[tony TLC]

steve im with dave all the way on this one the prep is the finish

 

[CON5933]

Steve,
that aint a tiling job mate...that's a rebuild.

Tiling alone I'd say £300 without the gear...as far as Aldi goes, it's great for beans...bread....and garlic chicken!

Absolutely refuse to use their supplied adhesive etc, once it's on the wall the responsibility is yours, ie: your rep.

If you can, help your cousin do the prep work and learn mate and next time you can add another £400 to £550 to make good. 🙂

 

[trevortine]

Love your advice dave, spot on m8, good to see another guy doin it right and best of all gives the right advise to those who are fresh to the job and doesnt point them in the wrong direction. Big up dave!!!

 

[SteveP]

update:

cheers for all the advice people 🙂

only thing is my cousin couldn't make it yesterday so they decided to get sum1 else.
don't know if they got someone to board it all or just do tiling the way they wanted it.

but i have learnt a valueable lesson which is tell them there and then if other work needs doing before i even think about tiling, some people just think tilers are builders for some reason.

stevep

 

[Varley]

Put it down to experience m8, can't get em all.

 

[tjsmiler]

update:

cheers for all the advice people 🙂

only thing is my cousin couldn't make it yesterday so they decided to get sum1 else.
don't know if they got someone to board it all or just do tiling the way they wanted it.

but i have learnt a valueable lesson which is tell them there and then if other work needs doing before i even think about tiling, some people just think tilers are builders for some reason.

stevep

I'm glad this fell through for you mate, it was a dissaster waiting to happen, however wall repairing is part of the job and it's one of the most valuable skills to learn....preperation in this game is everything.

Never take on a job where the customer is telling you that you can 'just pack it out' these people are trouble and cheapskates, they don't beleive a word you say and when at the end of the job it looks **** (like you told them it would) they then blame you......so if they don't wanna straighten the wall or pay you to do it, tell em to **** off and then stab em with a blunt knife!

TJ

 

[brian c]

good advice TJ especially the last bit:wink_smile:

 

[GazTech]

Trouble is that doing a cheap slap em on way how they wanted it,makes your work look bad,you may not of even got payed! I'll bet the WAN*ER plumber who caused the problem did get payed!

 

[DHTiling]

one of them jobs you were better of not getting more hassle than it was worth mate.
you'll know better next time.

 

[tjsmiler]

So true Gaz.......

TJ

 

[White Room]

Stevep, try getting in touch with British Gypsum for a two day course on dot and dab, I done mine about ten years ago, can't remember when I last done a float and set on a job It's all dry lining now. They have a training centre at East Leake in Leicester phone 0115 945 6123 and there'll send you details, best of luck