Remove Grout From Internal Corners?

[SB4U]

Hopefully a quick one for ya.

When I grouted recently I was obviously not careful enough and got some grout in the internal corners in a few areas, where I had intended to Silicon. Do you think I should remove all the grout before I Silicon or will I get away with it do you reckon? I did try to scrape some out last night using a stanley knife but chipped a bit of the cut edge of the tile so I don't want to faff about with this unless it's really necessary.

 

[Alan.P]

If your chipping tiles I wouldn't bother, it more than likely won't be full depth anyway, and I wouldn't like to replace tiles at this stage.

 

[SB4U]

Thanks @Alan.P. You're right, I really don't fancy replacing any tiles.

Although I've sent the wife out to get me a tile rake from Screwfix so maybe I'll try that to open the gap out a bit. If there's any more chips though I'll give up on it. I should have dealt with it whilst it was still soft of course but I always seemed to be chasing my tail to get it done before the grout went too hard.

 

[Alan.P]

If your adamant on getting some out and the rake doesn't work, try a hammer and old flat screwdriver and chip away at it.

 

[SB4U]

I think that if the rake doesn't work I won't sweat it any more and will just leave it as is.

 

[StevieBoy]

I wouldn't worry about that at all matey, it will be fine going over it with Silicon.

 

[widler]

I personally fill mine then Silicon , i aint had one crack yet, my bathroom is grouted in each corner , no Silicon and also no cracks in the couple of years its been in(no shower in it, just a free standing bath)
Id like to know how many tilers don't fill em, id bet most on here do, but won't admit it 😉

 

[Andy Allen]

I personally fill mine then Silicon , i aint had one crack yet, my bathroom is grouted in each corner , no Silicon and also no cracks in the couple of years its been in(no shower in it, just a free standing bath)
Id like to know how many tilers don't fill em, id bet most on here do, but won't admit it 😉

Bloody cowboy.....😛

 

[Old Mod]

I personally fill mine then Silicon , i aint had one crack yet, my bathroom is grouted in each corner , no Silicon and also no cracks in the couple of years its been in(no shower in it, just a free standing bath)
Id like to know how many tilers don't fill em, id bet most on here do, but won't admit it 😉

Ooow ooow sounds like a poll! Haha 😀

 

[cbmltd]

I've always filled and sealed over with a really close matching color Silicon wouldn't worry about it.🙂

 

[Alan.P]

Id like to know how many tilers don't fill em, id bet most on here do, but won't admit it 😉

Nope, no way, as per OP I often get a small amount of grout in a joint, this gets cleaned out as best as possible.

 

[widler]

Nope, no way, as per OP I often get a small amount of grout in a joint, this gets cleaned out as best as possible.

Ok, well I do, and I've never seen it not done in 30 years apart from a few who say they do it on here.
It's no problem, if the wall moves so much as it cracks, you have more problems behind the tiling than the tiling , never seen it crack yet.
But each tradesman does it differently ,each to there own 😉

 

[Alan.P]

Ok, well I do, and I've never seen it not done in 30 years apart from a few who say they do it on here.
It's no problem, if the wall moves so much as it cracks, you have more problems behind the tiling than the tiling , never seen it crack yet.
But each tradesman does it differently ,each to there own 😉

I've seen others do it and invariably I've seen it all crack, I tell site agents who insist on it coz 'it helps the mastic man' that it's bad practice, most listen.

 

[widler]

We could go on forever alan
"Ive seen it crack"
"Ive never seen it crack"
"Ive seen it crack"
"Ive never seen it crack"
"Ive seen it crack"
"Ive never seen it crack"
"Ive seen it crack"
"Ive never seen it crack"
There alan, ive saved us a load of back and forthing

 

[Alan.P]

We could go on forever alan
"Ive seen it crack"
"Ive never seen it crack"
"Ive seen it crack"
"Ive never seen it crack"
"Ive seen it crack"
"Ive never seen it crack"
"Ive seen it crack"
"Ive never seen it crack"
There alan, ive saved us a load of back and forthing

Looks like it's not only the grout that's cracking, have a cuppa mate 🙂 yes, we all have stories.

 

[SB4U]

Oh dear. Sorry to have started an argument guys.

Anyway, I decided to spend half an hour trying to scrape it out last night with the thought that if it was too difficult I'd just give up and leave it. But it went pretty well so I spent an hour in the end and got most of it out and am pretty happy with it now.

As you say it probably wouldn't have made any difference, especially as I was going to go over it with Silicon regardless, but it's done now so I'm satisfied.

I hate to add more fuel to the fire too... but in my other bathroom it's grouted into the corners and has cracked (I didn't tile this one). See pic.

 

[Alan.P]

Oh dear. Sorry to have started an argument guys.



I hate to add more fuel to the fire too... but in my other bathroom it's grouted into the corners and has cracked (I didn't tile this one).

Not an argument mate, banter between 2 opinions 🙂

I would like to say tol................................................... nah, I won't 😀

Pleased you got most of it done 🙂

 

[widler]

Ha ha no arguing , just difference of opinions, a bit like being married (im the women,i like wearing womens underwear 🙂 )

 

[Old Mod]

I hate to add more fuel to the fire too... but in my other bathroom it's grouted into the corners and has cracked

Hahaha of course u do Steve! 😀

 

[StevieBoy]

Righty, in all honesty it comes down to how good your cuts are going into the corners.
If your cuts are tight, ie less than 2mm then Silicon only will be fine.

If they are 4mm + them your cuts are bad and you may need glasses, however all is not lost as yes you can grout the corners first, leave to dry then over Silicon.

Not rocket science and not worth worrying about as long as it's one or the other.

 

[Old Mod]

There seems to be some kind of misconception running through this thread!

Silicon in the corners of a bathroom is not solely for keeping water at bay!
Putting Silicon over grout is just wrong anyway!

Silicon is placed at every transition for the purpose of an expansion joint as well as keeping water on the right side of the tiling!

 

[StevieBoy]

There seems to be some kind of misconception running through this thread!

Putting Silicon over grout is just wrong anyway!

I disagree there, I have recently just completed 3 rooms where the customer supplied the grout and it was all from Porcelenasa, there was no chance of getting a Silicon to match to do the internal corners.

Therefore the only solution was to grout them, let them dry and over Silicon with clear Silicon.

How else could you do it other than just clear Silicon in the corners and no grout - which would have looked great yeah.

 

[Old Mod]

Well I'm not getting into a huge debate about this, but fact of the matter is Silicon in corners whether it be wall to wall transition, or wall to floor transitions, is used as an expansion joint!
if u fill these transitions with grout, u have no expansion joint,
U can disagree all u want my friend, but it is what it is!

 

[StevieBoy]

Ok I give in.

 

[Andy Allen]

Multi traders. ...

 

[widler]

Well im going to disagree, it is what it is in your eyes and a few on here, but ive always seen em grouted and siliconed , sheet, abroad i don't think ive seen Silicon in a lot of hotels
what in the gods do you think was used before Silicon arrived ??? Oohh oohhh don't tell me 'they cracked'
Some stick to the 'book' some of us do whats always worked and always will, and if that makes me a cowboy in yours and a select few
Yeeeeeeee hhhhhhaaaaaaarrrrrr 😉

 

[Old Mod]

Haha it's not about giving in @StevieBoy
It's not like that!
It's just why ALL internal corners in a tiled room are siliconed, wet or dry!

 

[John Benton]

I disagree there, I have recently just completed 3 rooms where the customer supplied the grout and it was all from Porcelenasa, there was no chance of getting a Silicon to match to do the internal corners.

Therefore the only solution was to grout them, let them dry and over Silicon with clear Silicon.

How else could you do it other than just clear Silicon in the corners and no grout - which would have looked great yeah.

Its an expansion joint. If you fill it how can there be room for movement, something will give.

Have a look here you can match to most tiles or grout colours from here

http://www.countyconchem.co.uk/grap.../ottoseal-s100-sealant-colour-chart-large.jpg

 

[StevieBoy]

As you said, were not going to get into a big debate about it are we.

Different people will have different opinions that's life.

 

[Old Mod]

Well im going to disagree, it is what it is in your eyes and a few on here, but ive always seen em grouted and siliconed , sheet, abroad i don't think ive seen Silicon in a lot of hotels
what in the gods do you think was used before Silicon arrived ??? Oohh oohhh don't tell me 'they cracked'
Some stick to the 'book' some of us do whats always worked and always will, and if that makes me a cowboy in yours and a select few
Yeeeeeeee hhhhhhaaaaaaarrrrrr 😉

Haha who pulled your chain Craig!
I'm not saying u CAN'T grout ur corners!
U do what u want to!!
You're a grown up!
I'm saying u SHOULDN'T and I've given my reasons, why else would u Silicon dry corners?
It's not for the fun of siliconing is it!
And I'm not gonna call the Silicon police if u don't Craig, it's ok! 🙄

 

[StevieBoy]

Its an expansion joint. If you fill it how can there be room for movement, something will give.

Have a look here you can match to most tiles or grout colours from here

http://www.countyconchem.co.uk/graphics/sealant colour charts/ottoseal-s100-sealant-colour-chart-large.jpg

Anyone would think we're expecting major earthquakes or something.

That's a very nice website - I can't see how you order a tube from them unless I'm missing something.