Tiling problems on a yacht

[Scott the tiler]

Could anyone advise me on tiling onboard a 7million euro yacht.
The spec is there are 15m2 of marble tiles 3-4mm thick already installed. Problem is the chair and table leg keeps going through the tile as the marble is so thin. The original installer siliconed the 4 corners and placed wood crossed under the tiles as there is a 10mm void underneath. As these have moved problems have just begun!
Problem 2: Weight is a very important issue as 15m2 of 4mm tile is approx 400KG
I need to obviously fill this void with something light but strong, also there is an UFH system laying loosely any ideas on the type of glue to use?
Thank you

 

[White Room]

The installer should have known better than to have voids under marble that thin, Are the tiles grouted

 

[Scott the tiler]

They are butt jointed but the job is to remove all tiles and start from scatch

 

[White Room]

Bal fastflex comes to mind, It will take certain amount of vibration and is lighter than the cementios adhesives

 

[cornish_crofter]

How about the Profix version? CTD South West have it on offer at the moment.

 

[Scott the tiler]

What about the 10mm void I need something light and strong to fill this
Also I am in spain I can get hold of BAL but not much else

 

[doug boardley]

would hardi backer/marmot/wedi board do it? would you need a w'proof addy? at 400kg it might turn into a submarine

 

[White Room]

Fastflex may be your only option, It also sticks to metal

 

[cornish_crofter]

The only thing that comes to my mind is some kind of celotex or kingspan.

Alternitively, are you asking in the right forum? Perhaps you should be onto a boat builder's forum.

 

[doug boardley]

Could anyone advise me on tiling onboard a 7million euro yacht.
The spec is there are 15m2 of marble tiles 3-4mm thick already installed. Problem is the chair and table leg keeps going through the tile as the marble is so thin. The original installer siliconed the 4 corners and placed wood crossed under the tiles as there is a 10mm void underneath. As these have moved problems have just begun!
Problem 2: Weight is a very important issue as 15m2 of 4mm tile is approx 400KG
I need to obviously fill this void with something light but strong, also there is an UFH system laying loosely any ideas on the type of glue to use?
Thank you

i can't only worked on 6 and 8 million euro ones!!:boat:

 

[CJ]

Think you should speak to a boat builder :yes:

 

[doug boardley]

seriously now, it seems a lot of weight per m2 (works out at 26.6666 kg/m2) are you these weights are correct for 4mm tiles?

 

[White Room]

Check these weights Doug and you are probably right Tiles and Adhesive Weight Per Square Metre - THE TILE SOURCE

 

[MICK the Tiler]

I think a 4mm marble tile will always fail.............no matter how you fix it:yes:

 

[TilingLogistics]

Sounds like decorative marble meant for walls only to me. 4mm Marble tiles are not meant for floors I have ground thicker lippage than that

Kev

 

[Pawelzik]

Hello Scott. You better get in contact with PCI in Spain.
1. The adhesive PCI Nanolight is certified by German Lloyd register Luxembourg as allowed tile adhesive for deck construction on ships. Adhesives allowed for constructions on ships wear a "ship stearing wheel" on the bag.
2. 3-4 mm marble is definetly too thin/too weak as a.m. But, as you mentioned, a thicker marble has influence on the ship weight and therefore influence on the ship´s datas. It needs minimum the allowance of the ship´s owner for a change as he might have to change his ship insurance as the insurance would like to know if the risk has changed.
3. To cover the void ask PCI too for a solution.

As PCI belongs now to BASF, here is the contact in Spain:
BASF Construction Chemicals España, S.A.
C/Basters, 15
E-8184 Palau-Solità i Plegamans

Telefon: +34 93 862 00 00
Telefax: +34 93 862 00 20

E-Mail: [email protected]
Homepage: http://www.basf-cc.es

Good luck from Germany, Martin

 

[Brindle]

Could you not use an insulation board for the void? I know it's really light, the type for use with undertile heating?
I have tried the nanolight and it is lovely stuff 🙂
Saying that, isn't the new BAL super coverage adhesive (15kg bags) a lightweight type? Perhaps not flexible though.

 

[kilty55]

nanolite is excellent,,your right bals supercover is similar to work with but not flexible yet and also doesnt come in white