Discuss Suspended Timber Floor Tile Prep in the Tiling Forum area at TilersForums.com

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You wouldn’t tend to add sleepers afterwards. Considering a sleeper wall is constructed, then S&C, then DPC then more S&C and then a section of 4” x 2” on its side which is then screwed/nailed into from the joists above- I can’t see how adding a sleeper wall would work easily after the joists are down.
Agreed, if it were a clean slate then different story! I've got plenty of time, but at least I can weigh up the options of making this installation tile suitable.
 

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Take noggins out and double up the 4 x 2. It’s fairly simple and cheap. Where are you getting timber from locally
 
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Take noggins out and double up the 4 x 2. It’s fairly simple and cheap. Where are you getting timber from locally
BPS normally in Leam. No particular reason other than locality. Theres a TP and an MK nearby as well.

I'd leave the perimeter noggins and joint supports in place. I wont be able to span the same length as I have UFH pipes in the way so I'll have to come up maybe 4 inches short.
 
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That’s because they’re completely different products.
And have different functions.
I will go and read up. Looks like same sort of height increase so maybe a more suitable product for this substrate, and use Ditra over the concrete.
 
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All it means is that it limits where I can put joists on that section of the sleeper as the pipes are in the way, but at 12" OC its fine.
 
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It does have an impact if you are overboarding the ply and need to build up the height of joining floors. For example, a Foam tile backer board would be unsuitable and instead a cement board like Hardiebacker would be OK on top of wet UFH
 
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It does have an impact if you are overboarding the ply and need to build up the height of joining floors. For example, a Foam tile backer board would be unsuitable and instead a cement board like Hardiebacker would be OK on top of wet UFH
Ofc, its a problem for the other room. Thats not being tiled until the extension is built. Either way the ply will need another layer of something so I'll end up with a height difference. Can't lower this floor without rebuilding the sleepers.
 

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Dense concrete blocks would work, you could place them under every second beam from the middle beam on the picture but you would have to put a piece of slate under the block or DPM to stop damp, may also cheaper & quicker
 
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Eventually yes. I mentioned it in the OP these rooms will be joined so there will be a substrate difference and will need to be factored in. Thankfully the tiles will run with the join so at most its one tile that will straddle the two floors although I suppose you could just end of a full tile at the edges.
 

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Ofc, its a problem for the other room. Thats not being tiled until the extension is built. Either way the ply will need another layer of something so I'll end up with a height difference. Can't lower this floor without rebuilding the sleepers.
Or take ply up and put a thicker cement / structural board down. Double up joists and maybe even block and you should be sound as a pound
 
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