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My dog's called Trevor
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You guys! Too much (see how I hit 'Like' on all the one's that say nice things about me?)
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Hahaha u'll be wanting a cheap repair next! 😀 Haha
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My dog's called Trevor
Hi Dan
Guess you mean the builder. Don't know, haven't spoken to him but with the collective opinion I've got now I know which way is safe to try and steer the conversation. It's all the floor up with or without kitchen out, pros and cons to be discussed with him. It's a few bits I haven't bored you guys with (Christ knows you've read through enough of my crap) about how that's going to be done. It's foot down on chuck the UFH cable and get new - I'm not picking hundreds of blobs of cement off it. Same for insulation unless it's easily salvaged. Those bits not for negotiation. If he's still there after that we'll chat on who's going to do it (but with the clear caveat that it's done right) and who is going to cop for the costs incurred. If push comes to shove it'll be worth sweetening the deal with at least a token gesture on that - might be a few bob well spent in the long run. No sense shooting yourself in the foot however much your principles urge you to do otherwise. Above all I'm in a position to ask if he really wants to take the whole thing to independent opinion, whether for a legal process or otherwise.
He's coming Saturday for the next installment of cunning ideas to fix his bomb site. Think this time we're going to sew the tiles down with very, very fine thread. Or grass and a strimmer for that all-year-round al fresco feel (small pond in the corner, little windmill and a couple of gnomes). Or something. Will drop him a line before to tell him it's time to start making sense.
Promised you some pics tonight but the down side of the last couple of days is I'm massively behind on work - gets a bit addictive especially when everyone's talking about your stuff. Appreciate your interest, really, but going to have to blow you out on that tonight. Sorry, feel bad when people are being so helpful. If I get a chance I'll send some but it's all going to be down to what whoever does it thinks can be done - as long as it comes up where it needs to.
Need to pick some brains on the expansion joint business before the weekend but tonight going to let a lot of people down at work if I don't get off this site.
Thanks again to you and everyone
Matt
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My dog's called Trevor
As if? Never crossed my mind. But now you've mentioned it....
Could you keep the update coming please..
This threads better than anything on telly..lol
This threads better than anything on telly..lol
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My dog's called Trevor
Glad to be of service. If this chit chat brightens up someone's day then some good has come out of it all
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Old Mod
Admit it Matt u just like it here! 🙂
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My dog's called Trevor
Well you must be right 3_fall as I'm back for more.
Anyone got any thoughts on an expansion joint between the timber floor and the concrete slab? The dimensions in
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My dog's called Trevor
Sorry. Keep hitting the post button when I do this on my phone.
Is the expansion joint a bit of a recommendation or is it like whether you should have oil in your gearbox? I've dipped into the BS 5385 (not bought one for that price - costs more than a Gutenberg Bible). Does reckon you should have one when spanning different surfaces but I bet there're loads of jobs like mine where there isn't one. Looks like the joint would need to be at tile level although I've seen some US sites talking about something that goes over the joint to prevent cracking.
Reckon it will need discussing with the builder tomorrow
Thanks all
Matt
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cam_low
I would be advising on using a heating system like that of ditra heat-e or the new thermonet similar system, I would also use a grout colour matching Silicon for the joint, hopefully you can set the tiles out along that line to keep full tiles.
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My dog's called Trevor
Many thanks Cam
Will look into those systems. Depending on how straight and square in the corner the old wood floor is, it might be possible to line them at the joint
Thanks again
Matt
I'd go with the expansion joint and also don't cross cable over the joint. Run the two mats / cables to a junction box (only have cold cable not in the adhesive) and then from the JB to the thermostat. Might need advice from a sparky about that. We have a sparky forum. Link in my sig'.
You don't want the hot cable spanning two different substrates.
If also not wing it by avoiding an expansion. You've done all the winging it that you can on this one.
The matting on US sites might be uncoupling membrane. Dural C++ or Ditra are two brand names.
You don't want the hot cable spanning two different substrates.
If also not wing it by avoiding an expansion. You've done all the winging it that you can on this one.
The matting on US sites might be uncoupling membrane. Dural C++ or Ditra are two brand names.
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My dog's called Trevor
Could do with some good photos of the floor , but if you have some decent photos of women in bikini's thats always welcome 🙂
Thanks Widler
Could pull the cardboard up tonight and get some pics. Think it's not going to show the joint as it's got the insulation board down. Basically just going to show the glorious extent of the dot and dab and uncovered UFH cable - but I expect that's worth it to give everyone a chuckle.
On women in bikinis, will this do?
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My dog's called Trevor
Amazing the 'Likes' just for a photo of some semi-naked fat birds.
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Some of us don't get out enough
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Oi! those fat birds are someone's daughter,,,,,hazarding a guess that they're not someone's wife or mother though..
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TF
reading this thread while a lull in punters on a Saturday morning......
OMG.......
Builder is obviously used to laying patio slabs not tiles, i feel so sorry for you Matt.
When you purchased the tiles, didnt you get advise from the tile shop?
OMG.......
Builder is obviously used to laying patio slabs not tiles, i feel so sorry for you Matt.
When you purchased the tiles, didnt you get advise from the tile shop?
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My dog's called Trevor
Thanks Lee
Not surprised there's another opinion that concurs.
On the shop, not really as we had assurances from a guy who said he'd do the work and guarantee it. Sort of figure people know what they're doing and at the time with work he'd already done, had no reason to doubt him.
Then the work is done before we got a chance to spot what was happening. When queried the guarantee to put it right if it failed as repeated. That's where we are now. At least he hasn't legged it - yet.
On his way now. Will update the decision if we agree one.
Thanks again
Matt
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waiting on tenterhooks here !
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My dog's called Trevor
Well, gentlemen, what can I say? Thought I might as well wait until the football starts to test your patience and reslove.
I must say it could all have gone much worse. Overall all major objectives achieved. First off, it's coming up, around the units if it all possible. UFH coming up. Insulation up.Up, up, up. It's all coming up. Really difficult, this, for a builder - first thing they say is 'All that's got to come down'. Fantastic achievement in itself in general to reverse the vertical direction, and specific to my problems to reverse the direction of thinking from madness to sanity.
Tricky half hour on screeding over the existing dobs, insulation and cable but got through this pointing out that in areas nothing seems to be stuck to anything practically all the way to the centre of the earth. So, hack back to old timber/concrete first of all. Then a plan of genius simplicity. It seems if you get the floor flat first (and seemingly there are all manner of proprietary products with which to achieve such a feat) progress can really only then be impeded by taking no care whatsoever. I think I used to know that anyway but sometimes things slip your mind, I suppose.
Of course all of this is as of yet but talk. The proof will be in the pudding (reassuringly now a metaphor rather than a suggested tile adhesive substance).
As before, to be fair to the guy, he listened to what I said I wanted, said that that is what we would do and that he just wanted us to be happy with the job. As much as he's driven me nuts over a number of things, he's not bad guy.
Not sure I could have had the same conversation with him without all the contributions of the last week so I remain extremely grateful.
Thanks all, but not necessarily signing off for good
Matt
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Old Mod
Glad u've had a productive meeting today, excellent news. Hope you're coming back to give us progress reports 🙂
Good luck.
Good luck.
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J Sid
Is he going to attempt the retile himself, or is he getting in a professional in this time?
Good to see he wants a happy customer and happy to work right.
Good to see he wants a happy customer and happy to work right.
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My dog's called Trevor
Football pfffttfft rather watch grout set .
As for your job, i hope all well matt, your patience is to be commended
Thanks for your kind words as before. On the football, I see you're from Burnley, so that would be about right.
Take care and thanks
Matt
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