TEKCEM FIBRE what needed to porcelain tile - Tile Advice

[jonnyp1]

hello new here but wished i had found and asked before screed and ufh down but here goes.
We have an extension (9m by 6.2m) which has a standard slab been down for 4 months, and then insulation in quick drying screed, the existing part has a slightly friable slab with approx 20mm of latex self levelling screed, then low profile ufh in TEKCEM fibre over both new and old. Ive commissioned the ufh as per tekcems instructions. The ufh people had allowed 15mm for 10mm tile and adhesive to take it upto bifold thresholds and no mention of anti frag mat, tiler said he would advise putting one in.
Any advice intending to put in 1200 by 200 10mm porcelain planks.
ps girlfriend wants me to shell out for professional but budget tight could a pretty good diyer lay this to ok standard?

 

[Tile Marble Granite]

You can give it a try. 1200 by 200 10mm porcelain planks are a pain to install. You will need a perfect screed/slab, embed them 100% in a good tile adhesive. Follow the manufacturer instructions, offset the joints as recommended. It can be done!

 

[jonnyp1]

You can give it a try. 1200 by 200 10mm porcelain planks are a pain to install. You will need a perfect screed/slab, embed them 100% in a good tile adhesive. Follow the manufacturer instructions, offset the joints as recommended. It can be done!

cheers any thoughts on need for frag mat and have seen they are 0.7 to 0.85mm but i believe set in adhesive so thicker? If i put in mat how much depth does it take up, i would need to fit it all in 15mm?

 

[Dave]

Personally, i would recommend an anti-crack mat with a heated screed . Thus preventing any future cracking from transferring to the tiles and with a floor of 9 mtrs in length then it will help with lateral stress. Ditra is my choice of matting.

 

[jonnyp1]

thanks, but can i fit it in my depth, i have approx 15mm maybe 16mm from screed to edge of bifold doors frame so cant be over that?

 

[Tile Marble Granite]

Anti crack membrane is 3mm thikness

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Durabase Uncoupling Mat​

 

[TKD Tiling]

thanks, but can i fit it in my depth, i have approx 15mm maybe 16mm from screed to edge of bifold doors frame so cant be over that?

With a 10mm deep porcelain on a flat subfloor 16mm should be total height minimum from subfloor to top of tile inc. Ditra matting.

 

[jonnyp1]

Anti crack membrane is 3mm thikness

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Durabase Uncoupling Mat​

thanks am i right then in saying no room for mat, 3mm uncoupling, minimum 3mm tile adhesive and 10mm tile? Or does the mat allow for thinner adhesive? If cant fit mat what are my options to minimise risk?

 

[Tile Marble Granite]

If the 3mm is a concern to you then there is another decoupling membrane from BAL available at Topps Tiles.

BAL Rapid Mat, 1mm thickness​

BAL Rapidmat is engineered with a structured inner mesh sandwiched between two thin membrane layers, enabling the substrate and tiling to move independently of one another. The installation of decoupling...

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https://www.toppstiles.co.uk/fixing-finishing/preparation/decoupling-matting/bal-rapid-mat-1m

 

[Dan]

I'm not sure it's suitable for all cases where decoupling membranes and anticrack mats although sound the same aren't for the same circumstances all the time. I'll have to check tomorrow.

But you cant spare 2mm? Your floor is going to undulate more than that itself.

 

[Dan]

This one was pulled out but was human error I believe

Removing anti-crack matting - https://www.tilersforums.com/threads/removing-anti-crack-matting.91656/

BAL or Mapei - Decoupling membrane/anti-frac?

Looking for a mat to help stop any movement between solid hallway floor and suspended ceiling over cellar. Victorian geometric tiles over top. BAL or Mapei - any preference? Cheers TN.

www.tilersforums.com

 

[jonnyp1]

cheers

yes will undulate but would like to make sure i can fit level or lower than bifold threshold, ive now gone all along the threshold and the depth to latex screed with ufh in varies from 15mm to 18mm only little bit at one end 15mm, i thought maybe i could sand that down so i have at least 16mm all the way, then could i fit dita 3mm laid depth?, 3mm adhesive? and 10mm tile, or if bal is ok i wouldnt have a bit more room?

 

[jonnyp1]

anyone any experience of the bal mat as suposedly thinner??