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Thanks Boggs. I know this may sound stupid, but can you tile over tiles? As that wall the floor tiles are up to it and the cladding is on. I know it is not ideal, but is it possible and if so. How would you go about it?
 
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Just to add the wall is plasterboard stud wall, we know the tiles are stuck well, none loose. The tiles themselves are 8mm porcelain, and they new tiles would be offset over the top of the others so the tile joints would not be aligned.
 

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If they are the same 8mm tiles i turned down a job for last year(b&q maybe?), they are awful tiles to work with, cheap, chip easy and very sizey .
No excuse for the bad setting out though ;)
 
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No they are good quality porcelain. Is there such a thing as an internal corner wall trim, like stainless steel that could hide those corners or anything like that?
 

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Yeah you can if that’s the way you would prefer to do it.
I would prime the wall first with Tilemaster Prime Plus Grip and tile on top.
 

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A good S1 standard set is what I would use, but match up adhesive with chosen primer would be best.
 

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Personally, I wouldn't take the chance of tiling over existing tile due to the weight limits per square metre. Even 8mm porcelain and allowing 3-4kg for adhesive you are looking at around 20-22kgs per layer. 2 layers of tiles, 40-44kg's.

The advised limit for plaster skim (if the boards have been skimmed) is 20kgs and bare plasterboard is 32kgs. Exceeding those limits is a risk I wouldn't be prepared to take.... unless I always plan to enter the room with steel toes and a hard-hat, or a deathwish.
 

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Still likely to be over the limit.

You have three choices.

1. Bodge it and run the risk of injuring yourself or your family when they all come down on top of you/them when taking a slash (sounds harsh but has been known)

2. Do it properly. Take the tiles down, replace any damaged plasterboard and re-tile (my prefered option)

3. Live with it and have that little slither of tile and the teeth marks in the cuts point and laugh at you every time you go in there until you go insane and end up in a straight jacket and padded cell for several years with ongoing therapy until after years of counselling and prozak you get your madness under control and finally concede that option 2 may have been the best way forward to live a life of peace and harmony :)
 
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Ha Ha Paul thanks, that's the first time I've laughed in days.

1. the toilet is over the other side of the room, so no risk there, but could get balls cut off having a shower. I don't fancy that.

2. yes

3. forget it.

is there a compromise where I could get them to take the slither and one tile out each side and put two half tiles in or will that look as bad?

By the way the shower tray/cubicle and sink is fitted on that wall since the pictures.

I did ask on this thread does there exist a corner trim, maybe brushed stainless steel that could be fitted and look ok?
 

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To be honest I think it will be too noticeable that you have two half tiles in a corner. You could give it a go to see if you can live with it before making your decision about re-tiling, but personally, I think it will be a waste of time. Others may have a different opinion.

It depends on how thick the slither is, but this is 15mm deep and may work to cover it?
https://www.tiling tools/product/15mm---ewa150-91-genesis-polished-chrome-self-adhesive-internal-trim-2-5m

EDIT: thinking about it, if it works, it may be worth doing all internal corners to keep it uniform around the room so they don't look out of place.
 
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That's the sort of thing Paul, thing is I don't think 15mm is big enough to cover it, more like 25-30mm. That's quite big. Does anyone bathroom have this sort of corner finish by choice? Maybe high end bathroom - lol.

I'm getting to the point where I'm thinking to rip the ffing lot out. Everything is a compromise and it shouldn't be. Anyone want a job in Lancashire?
 

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In some situations, they can look quite neat, but if its the intended look you are looking for, there are better trims to use and the tiling still needs to be right. This is designed more of a last-ditch cover-up when all other options are exhausted.
 
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Yes, I think I'm going to get it redone, I guess tiles don't come off to easily from plasterboard. Better sometimes to take a step back before continuing. Thanks all for your help and advice.
 

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The layout has gone horribly wrong. Not sure why as the classic mistake is not realising the walls are not plumb as the installer goes up the wall from the first bottom course with a full tile, but it seems this was easily apparent as the cuts are tiny all the way up. I think this is just a poor job and is prone to water ingress. Tiles don't look level either as the joints don't meet in corners. Looks like grout has been used in the soap niches instead of silicone which won't seal out water. Poor cutting of tiles (rough machine edges). Non-mitre of trims, just butt-joints.
The only solution is to ask him to rip it out and start again.
 
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I'm ordering new tiles today. Bathroom furniture being taken out tomorrow. Next week tiles off full wall and bad ones around window being taken off and surface prepared. After that I'm looking for a tiler ro finish. You don't fancy coming over to Ramsbottom do you?
 
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I'll take all tips on board when liaising with tiler. I'm interested to know how you professional tillers would have laid out this space. Whether there are different ideas on approach. On left side is a shower quadrant. On right side mirror cabinet and sink.

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  • :filefolder:
  • :fire:
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  • :link:
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  • :loudspeaker:
  • :loveletter:
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  • :mailclosedflagup
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  • :microscope:
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  • :mute:
  • :newspaper:
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  • :notebookdecorative:
  • :nutbolt:
  • :openbook:
  • :openfile:
  • :openlock:
  • :orangebook:
  • :outbox:
  • :package:
  • :pagefaceup:
  • :pagecurl:
  • :pager:
  • :paperclip:
  • :partypooper:
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  • :performingarts:
  • :personalcomputer:
  • :pill:
  • :pinedecoration:
  • :pileofpoop:
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  • :postbox:
  • :pushpin:
  • :radio:
  • :rightmagnify:
  • :roladex:
  • :rotatinglight:
  • :roundpushpin:
  • :rugby:
  • :satellite:
  • :sax:
  • :scissors:
  • :scroll:
  • :seat:
  • :seenoevil:
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  • :slotmachine:
  • :smoking:
  • :soccerball:
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  • :spades:
  • :speaknoevil:
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  • :speakerone:
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  • :speechballoon:
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  • :telephonereceiver:
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  • :tennisball:
  • :thoughtballoon:
  • :ticket:
  • :toilet:
  • :triangularruler:
  • :triangularflag:
  • :trophy:
  • :trumpet:
  • :vhs:
  • :videocamera:
  • :videogame:
  • :violin:
  • :windchime:
  • :wrench:
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