Cheers JCR. Same advice I had from Lithion. It didn’t work so was advised try 3-1 or 4-1. Used 4-1 left on for 20 mins, scrubbed and scrubbed like I’ve never scrubbed before! Rinsed. Next day looked at them dry. Nothing had changed. So went even stronger almost used it meat, left m, scrubbed constantly, rinsed. You guessed it didn’t budge. I used 4 L bottles on area of approx 20m2. Thanks for your help I’m literally at my wits end with this