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Anyone ever thought of using double sided foam tape to put battons on the walls?
If you get the good quality stuff thats capable of holding a lot of weight (mounting tape) and simply stick it on the wall in no time.

Then when your finished knock it off with a hammer,
and scrape off the tape in seconds with a wallpaper scraper.

No problems with screwing into electrical wiring either.

Sound like a good time saving idea?

Ryan
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Possibly, though with tape you'd have to get it bang on level the split second you place it to the wall though, wouldn't you ?

I prefere the hotglue gun method, gives you a few seconds to move the batton around to get it level then hold a few seconds and it's stuck.
 
Yeah, i'm gonna get myself a hot glue gun, seems like a great idea and a lot less hassle.
 
No need for battens once you get used to tiling ....put your datem lines on the wall as usual.. then starting from your centre mark or however you have set out to start from.. stick one row of tiles vertically from datem line down to floor..then tile from floor to datem line in consecutive rows then no need for battens ...worked for me all these years.. good technique once you get used to it...saves on installing battens and money on timber etc.......dave....
 
No need for battens once you get used to tiling ....put your datem lines on the wall as usual.. then starting from your centre mark or however you have set out to start from.. stick one row of tiles vertically from datem line down to floor..then tile from floor to datem line in consecutive rows then no need for battens ...worked for me all these years.. good technique once you get used to it...saves on installing battens and money on timber etc.......dave....
Just like that..in a Tommy Cooper voice...lol
 
No need for battens once you get used to tiling ....put your datem lines on the wall as usual.. then starting from your centre mark or however you have set out to start from.. stick one row of tiles vertically from datem line down to floor..then tile from floor to datem line in consecutive rows then no need for battens ...worked for me all these years.. good technique once you get used to it...saves on installing battens and money on timber etc.......dave....

Seems logical dave, does that mean you do all your cuts to the floor as you do each row then?

Grumpy
 
Mmmm! must try that. Got a job coming up to put marble on my sisters bathroom wall. Not getting paid for it so maybe the idea opportunity to try a new technique.
 
I know it can seem like a waste of time messing with battons,
but you can mix your adhesive a little thinner (not too thin of course) when working with battons, safe in the knowledge your tiles arent going to slip.
The advantage being you can then slap the adhesive on faster and its less tiring on the arms.
I havent timed it but could work faster this way.
And if you can re-use your batton all the way around the room and on other jobs - not much cost really.
With this mouting foam tape i find I can bang it on - and if it aint straight I can
knock it off and have another go and its usually still tacky.
In fact I can knock it off the wall quickly and mount it on the next wall straight away without putting more tape on - to carry on around the room.
Probally not a good idea with heavy stuff - but standard ceramic stuff
works ok.
Maybe a glue gun would hold the weight of natural stone. Think how useful that would be holding up a heavy natural mosaic tile around a curving bath panel thats trying to slip!
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Oddly enough you rip it off and re-stick straight away with the same tape I find.
Very tacky stuff.
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thats true - although you can't always work from bottom up and be guaranteed to end on a straight line all the way along a wall with mosacis on a mesh, because you cant vary the gaps and gain space if need be because there all tied together.
Its a bugger.
 
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aaahhhh, yes, the adhesive.... Knew I was going wrong sopmewhere!!
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If you use the glue gun, how do you take the batons down?
 
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use a chisel or the claw on a hammer and it should just pop of, just get something down behind it and apply a little leverage. Make sure the chisel/hammer gets wedged in underneath the baton, not the top where the tiles are resting on it or you could damage a tile.
 
Battons? never used them I was always told to use cardboard from the box of tiles. you can fold to it to what ever thickness. Tile striaghtdown fold card make level and the cardboard crushes when you push down simple.
 
juust a quick knock with a hammer..doh.........dave....lol lol lol...

thanks.....

I asked becasue I thought that the adhesion between the surface and the glue might be strong enough to remove some of the plaster/tanking if I just gave it a whack, and that I might need to slide sommat in between....

Was always that there is no such thing as a stupid question!!
 
only having a laff supapee...usually they just flick off with a chisel or screwdriver as long as you dont overdo it with the hot melt.........dave........


p.s.....soz...
 
does the hot glue come off he wood easily ? Has anyone actually tried this hot glue gun or is it just ideas at the moment ? Would be interesting to know if its easier than nailing it...
 
here,s links to sites that sell them..or B&Q sell them..........dave....

[DLMURL="http://www.gluegunsdirect.com/"]GLUE GUNS, GLUE STICKS, INDUSTRIAL GLUE GUNS[/DLMURL]

Glue Gun, glue stick, hot melt, industrial adhesive, foundry supplies - Fospat

also here is a breif dicription on what a hot melt glue gun is just incase some peeps have never heard of them before.....

Hot glue (or hot melt glue) is a form of thermoplastic adhesive that is commonly in solid sticks designed to be melted in a special gun. The glue comes in cylinders of various lengths, and is pushed inside of an electric hot glue gun. The gun contains a heating element to melt the plastic glue. Squeezing the trigger will push the stick through the heating element, ejecting molten plastic. Directly after leaving the gun, the glue is so hot that if it is applied directly to skin, it will often cause damage such as blisters. The glue cools to harden, so it is commonly used when quick bonding is desired, generally in less than one minute.

[edit] Glue materials

A common material for the glue sticks (e.g. the light amber colored Thermogrip GS51, GS52, and GS53) is ethylene-vinyl acetate (EVA) copolymer.[1] The vinyl acetate monomer content is about 18–29 percent by weight of the polymer. Various additives are usually present, e.g. a tackifying resin and wax. Other base materials may be based on polyethylene, polypropylene, polyamide, or polyester, or various copolymers.[2]

[edit] Specifications and usage

Glue guns are typically classified as low-temperature or high-temperature. Low-temperature glue guns usually heat up to about 250º F (120º C), and are well suited for delicate work such as lace, cloth, or children's crafts. High-temperature guns generally heat up to around 380º f (195º c) and are used for heavy duty projects. Dual guns have a switch and are capable of operating in either temperature range.
Sticks come in several diameters, and usually a single gun can handle two (similar) sizes. The most popular stick sizes are 10 centimeters in length with a diameter of 11 millimeter, or roughly 0.45 inches. This is the only size commonly sold in British do it yourself stores, while on the continent a 7 millimeter caliber is on sale.
Due to the heating differences, high-temperature and low-temperature guns may use different glue sticks, but many sticks specify dual usage.
There are many advantages to using hot glue, such as the its ability to fill gaps. However, hot glue also has its disadvantages. As the glue cools, it becomes harder to manipulate, so one has to work in short margins of time. It is difficult to spread without tools, as it cannot be touched with hands when hot, and when it is cold it is impossible to spread. For larger areas, spreading the glue using a glue gun and then melting it all at once with a heat gun, for example, may be an option.
Another common use of hot glue is on disposable diaper construction where it is used to bond together the nonwoven material with the backsheet and the elastics.
 
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If I know there is no pipes or wires behind in the wall I will then use a few nails, but if I can't be sure for whatever reason then I have used hot glue gun.
 

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