Mapei Anthracite grout ruined Tiles

[theandroids]

Anyone else used this grout before and had the same problem? Absolutely gutted, ruined all my hard work,time and money putting up tiles. Now have to take everything down. Nightmare. Any recommend grout that does not do this. I used ultracolour plus before and never had an issue, so don't know if its the ceramic tile or a combination of both.

 

[WetSaw]

Have you tried cleaning them with a grout residue remover or an acid based cleaner?

 

[theandroids]

Have you tried cleaning them with a grout residue remover or an acid based cleaner?

No. Even if that worked the tile is still ruined as will still get dirt in scratches over and over.

 

[Dumbo]

Have you considered that the tiles were already scratched but didn' show until you got some dark pigment in . I have used a lot of Mapei ucp in fact I am using the 113 cement grey now. I have used the 114 anthracite before and not had this problem . I would probably point the finger at the tiles and not the grout . Maybe get a tile check it for scratches ( rubbing with a grubby hand normally works ) and then rub some grout on it and see if it scratches. I will be very interested to know the outcome .

 

[theandroids]

Have you considered that the tiles were already scratched but didn' show until you got some dark pigment in . I have used a lot of Mapei ucp in fact I am using the 113 cement grey now. I have used the 114 anthracite before and not had this problem . I would probably point the finger at the tiles and not the grout . Maybe get a tile check it for scratches ( rubbing with a grubby hand normally works ) and then rub some grout on it and see if it scratches. I will be very interested to know the outcome .

No, that's the first thing I checked. Found a few people who had this same problem with anthracite. I used ultracolour plus grey grout before too no issue. I the process f removing them.

 

[Flintstone]

Personally I don’t beleive the grout has done that, I think they were already scratched prior
To grouting.

 

[Julian 'Farmer' Bonsall]

[DIY'er and interested follower]. I used Ultracolour 114 recently on 4m2 Metro's and its on 10m2 of floor ceramics in my house.

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[theandroids]

Personally I don’t beleive the grout has done that, I think they were already scratched prior
To grouting.

[DIY'er and interested follower]. I used Ultracolour 114 recently on 4m2 Metro's and its on 10m2 of floor ceramics in my house.

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Those are some pretty nice grout lines you have there. Is that 4mm?

 

[theandroids]

Personally I don’t beleive the grout has done that, I think they were already scratched prior
To grouting.

Maybe. Bit cant see with my eyes, unless grout brought them out. but heard a someone on here have the same problem in the past, also a couple reviews. I will be extra careful and inspect tiles individually next time.

 

[Julian 'Farmer' Bonsall]

Those are some pretty nice grout lines you have there. Is that 4mm?

Thanks its appreciated. Took me two days including the new sockets, moving a gas pipe and some shopping for trim.
5mm. Originally they wanted 2mm but I made a board up with 3 tiles at 5mm (just with a cartridge adhesive) and grouted and they sat it on the worktop for viewing; so that's what we have. Tiles replace blue shiny paint (its not tiled on paint) - nice.

 

[Dumbo]

Maybe. Bit cant see with my eyes, unless grout brought them out. but heard a someone on here have the same problem in the past, also a couple reviews. I will be extra careful and inspect tiles individually next time.

As I said earlier pigment in grout got in scratches or as you say grout brought them out .

 

[Bill]

Your grout float can cause scratches too if it is in poor condition.

Those are scratches from something other than mapei grout.

 

[John Benton]

I've just used 114 UCP on white glazed tiles without any problems. As above, I think that scratches were probably there but not noticeable until the grout was applied.

PS the tiles are level. However, the installation of the window is not!!!

 

[Simon Dale]

Thats what we all say

 

[John Benton]

Thats what we all say

And I'm sticking to it!!!!

 

[On one]

I first read this thread just as I was finishing dinner earlier on today and just about to grout a bathroom floor with.........Mapie UCP in Anthracite!!!!
Needn't have worried.....done and dusted in 60mins, albeit on porcelain, but I have used the very same grout on Metros and not had a problem.

 

[theandroids]

Your grout float can cause scratches too if it is in poor condition.

Those are scratches from something other than mapei grout.

I first read this thread just as I was finishing dinner earlier on today and just about to grout a bathroom floor with.........Mapie UCP in Anthracite!!!!
Needn't have worried.....done and dusted in 60mins, albeit on porcelain, but I have used the very same grout on Metros and not had a problem.

[DIY'er and interested follower]. I used Ultracolour 114 recently on 4m2 Metro's and its on 10m2 of floor ceramics in my house.

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Hey, did you use a grout finisher?

 

[Julian 'Farmer' Bonsall]

I used one these.
TileMate Grout Float | Topps Tiles - http://www.toppstiles.co.uk/tprod42272/tilemate-grout-float.html

Pack of sponges (forget where from - screwfix sell the same) [EDIT - Three clean buckets of water ] and some automotive sprayers cotton cloth to remove the residue once dry.

 

[theandroids]

Ok thats, I have that float. Thought people used a tool to smooth grout lines. That pen looking thing with a ball on top.

 

[John Benton]

Ok thats, I have that float. Thought people used a tool to smooth grout lines. That pen looking thing with a ball on top.

Generally use a washboy

 

[Simon Dale]

We try not to take grout out

 

[Julian 'Farmer' Bonsall]

I don't use the tool you are describing (one in the image?).

This thread may be helpful How do You Finish Grout Lines? - https://www.tilersforums.com/threads/how-do-you-finish-grout-lines.2964/

[DIY'er]

 

[Simon Dale]

Anyone been on Bondara ?

 

[Julian 'Farmer' Bonsall]

Generally use a washboy

Never thought of that

... I googled it as well had thought it was a band

 

[John Benton]

Never thought of that

Quickly googles 'washboy'

 

[theandroids]

I don't use the tool you are describing (one in the image?).

This thread may be helpful How do You Finish Grout Lines? - https://www.tilersforums.com/threads/how-do-you-finish-grout-lines.2964/

[DIY'er]

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Was talking about this.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Up here we use a ‘Nettie latch’

 

[Tile Shop]

Anyone been on Bondara ?

You Bugger.... Googled it on the work computer, thinking it may have been a tool supplier i'd never heard of!

It was....... of sorts

 

[Italy]

this is pallino of raimondi
for floor and wall

 

[GAZ5518]

I’m sure plenty of us have used one of these at one time or another... I know I have!!