The all singing all dancing do it all uncoupling membrane

[Flintstone]

Or so Bal say, here's there new membrane... I think the same system has been released in America for some time under the Ardex name.


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[Dumbo]

I have seen flexbone on the internet before but dont worry bal will try and convince people they invented it . If I remember rightly its a dry lay system so expect new British standards to suggest we shouldn't bond membranes

 

[Waluigi]

Flexbone?!

Sounds like a treat for dogs that is not only incredibly tasty, it also cleans their teeth.

 

[Tile Shop]

Just enquired about this. Not on BALs website yet and their own tech department doesn't have any literature they can forward on. Will try the rep. Was only officially launched yesterday.

Ok so you save on adhesive for the easy system, but with the word BAL in front of it, thats all the saving gone right off the bat! Although I can see it would have its uses.

 

[Flintstone]

It's bound to be eye wateringly expensive. I think it's biggest strength could be tiling onto anhydrite quickly with out needing to remove laitance

 

[hmtiling]

There's 2 of them. One loose lay and one fixed with addy. See Ardex flexbone 720 & 740. Trimline have been selling one fir a while over here under the gutjahr brand which is also owned by Ardex.

 

[hmtiling]

It's bound to be eye wateringly expensive. I think it's biggest strength could be tiling onto anhydrite quickly with out needing to remove laitance

Gonna be cheaper removing laitence than buying that and having to use all bal products for the guarantee though

 

[One Day]

There's to be a change to bs5385 to stipulate the difference between uncoupling and anti fracture. They are going to say that uncoupling means it must be unbonded.
Personally I see it as an assault on ditras dominance.
I'm yet to be convinced of anything outperforming ditra...

 

[One Day]

That said, both products look very good!

 

[Dumbo]

There's to be a change to bs5385 to stipulate the difference between uncoupling and anti fracture. They are going to say that uncoupling means it must be unbonded.
Personally I see it as an assault on ditras dominance.
I'm yet to be convinced of anything outperforming ditra...

If there is enough movement ditra will second anyway .
So my joke earlier was very close to the bone .

 

[One Day]

If there is enough movement ditra will second anyway .
So my joke earlier was very close to the bone .

You hit the nail on the head really!

 

[ATZ Tiling]

We use the durabase c++, never any problems

 

[Blunt Tool]

 

[Spare Tool]

Has anyone actually started using this floating matting yet or have any user knowledge on it?
Doesn't sit right with me but must do the job and might have a job in the pipeline for it..

 

[GoneGuy]

I haven’t had a chance to use it, and when I popped into topps tiles other week they never heard of it

 

[J Sid]

bal rep told me its not available yet in my area but CTD are about to start selling it

 

[Dumbo]

bal rep told me its not available yet in my area but CTD are about to start selling it

Still on trimline website .

 

[Spare Tool]

Tile fix direct sell it but none in stock atm, its not silly money either.. Quite tempted to give it a go actually, I'll have to see if the customer wants to 'risk' it

 

[Flintstone]

They won't want to risk it if you mention the word risk !

 

[Spare Tool]

They won't want to risk it if you mention the word risk !

Is it a risk though, thats what I'd like to know...

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Looks like tile fix the forum sponser sell it, might be cheaper that shop buying.

 

[Flintstone]

I've never used it or seen it, but I think if you follow there instructions regarding the flatness of the floor and use there adhesive I can't see it being a problem. Get a rep out if your not sure

 

[Spare Tool]

I've never used it or seen it, but I think if you follow there instructions regarding the flatness of the floor and use there adhesive I can't see it being a problem. Get a rep out if your not sure

Oh so you can't use any other flexi adhesive on it then? Cuz it won't work or no guarantee....which never hold water anyway!!

 

[Dumbo]

Is it a risk though, thats what I'd like to know...

If your floor is flat enough probably not . My local John Lewis just has tiles dry laid they aren't going anywhere as the floor is flat . But what I would find a pain is the mat lifting if you needed to lift a tile to reset it .

 

[Dumbo]

Oh so you can't use any other flexi adhesive on it then? Cuz it won't work or no guarantee....which never hold water anyway!!

I was giving one of their reps a hard time and I put the question to him when he was banging on about guarantee and their adhesive . I said " so are you telling me it's going to fail if I use somebody else's adhesive " he said no . What it comes down to regarding guarantee's is their mat will be guaranteed , the adhesive you use will be guaranteed , it's just if its the same company they have to pay if they stand by their guarantee . If it's two different companies they will blame one another as to whose product has failed , before they decide its easier to say neither of their products are at fault and it is an instalation fault due to the tiler .