Discuss Wetroom 3 different ways? in the Tiling Forum area at TilersForums.com

Jon329

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Hello everyone,

I tried to avoid asking this question as I'm sure you're all sick of seeing the same questions being asked, but after days of research I am unable to choose the best flooring to put down for a small ground floor wetroom on a suspended timber floor. 1.65x1.85m room dimensions

So I have taken up all the water damaged chipboard and want to replace it with something of a similar height to avoid having a step going into the bathroom. I have bought a 22mm tuff former from screwfix, so I also need to match that height

From what I've seen from various forum are these are the suggestions.

1) 18mm ply wood then 6mm aquapannel (tile board) giving me a 24mm height floor. But unsure how prop up the former by 2mm or if it's close enough.

2) 25mm ply wood floor, then get 3.6mm ply and place that under the tuff former to try and level it.

3) I've seen some 22mm tongue and groove plywood from travis perkins. "Selex Structural Plywood B/C Grade Tongue and Grooved 2425mm x 600mm x 22mm" on the manufacturers website it says this is actually 21mm height but I'm thinking I could put some uncoupling membrane on top to get it level with the tuff former.

I'm thinking option 3 might be the best. But I know that some people say 25mm ply is the minimum for laying tiles?

Any advise would be greatly appreciated!!
 

Chalker

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Hi
Personally wouldn’t have used the screwfix former, there are better ones about. But as you have, as Long as you suppor it well, it will be fine.
I take it you have a void under your joists? If so , make sure you insulate it while you have the floor up. If there is any deflection in the floor, you will need to install noggings between the joists ( 400mm Centers, or 18inch if you have imperial sized ply.
Don’t worry about the 2mm height difference, as long as your using decent sized tiles, you can overcome that with adhesive. Other than that you idea of floor build up is fine. Use plenty of screws and glue the ply to the joists. I would have used 6mm insulation boards. They are easier to cut.

The main thing with a wet room is waterproofing it. Personally, I would used Ardex this uses a fibreglass tape applied to any joins and corners. Then cover the floor and walls, which will be getting wet.
 
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Jon329

Jon329

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Thank you for your help, could I ask what type of insulation you would use? I hadn't intended to use any underfloor heating and hadn't even considered insulation. I'm guessing foam insulation like celotex?
 

hmtiling

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Thank you for your help, could I ask what type of insulation you would use? I hadn't intended to use any underfloor heating and hadn't even considered insulation. I'm guessing foam insulation like celotex?
marmox , wedi type boards. they're cement coated xps
 
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Waluigi

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@Jon329

18mm ply and overboarded with 6mm Hardiebacker or similar. Glued, screwed, taped and filled.

I would concentrate on getting this right in your head and think about the height this gives you.

Your wet room former can easily be raised slightly to reach the same level as the rest of the floor. Simply board out in between joists slightly higher.

I’d get the wet room former in first but have some offcuts of Ply and Hardiebacker to hand as your reference point.

As you have no UFH going in, I wouldn’t consider an Insuition board personally. That’s not to say that there is anything wrong with using it.
 
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Jon329

Jon329

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Thank you all for your time and advice. It's all coming together, just need to get some sort of tanking kit now, any recommendations?. The shower area is actually surrounded by solid walls luckily, but it seems people still advise tanking them. Only other questions I have is that you have mentioned glueing the plywood down, any glue in particular? Guess just normal wood adhesive?
 
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Waluigi

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Paint on membranes I’d use either Tilemaster or Ardex. Membranes on a roll, I find Schlüter Kerdi a good choice but there are lots available and all do a similar job.

The ply isn’t glued, it’s the Hardiebacker that is glued and screwed, on top of the ply, using Tile adhesive.
 
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Jon329

Jon329

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I guess because it's a very small room if I were to buy the paint on membrane then i could do the shower walls and floor all with the same stuff and it looks cheaper! however the membranes on a roll does look more "fool proof"

Might just have to be brave and go for the paint on!

Has anyone used the akw membrane though, don't know if it's best to use the manufacturers own membrane to go over my akw tuff former
 
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Jon329

Jon329

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Trying to fit the waste for my former, can anyone advise where I can get the part I need or
What it's called? I'm just trying to connect a 50mm pipe to this 50mm adapter on the soil pipe, but all I can find are reducers?! I can push a 50mm pipe connector on the end but I don't think there's sufficient depth on the outlet to be correct. I'm just trying to mirror what's been done already to the other 50mm outlet.

I'm right in assuming this will be solvent weld I hope?

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