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White Room
That could be frightening....
Floorflex for tiling, Screedmaster ultimate (Bag and bottle) for vinyl
B
Bill
Ultra LevelIT from a Topps last week cost me £18. I don't have a trade account with them but I asked for discount. I have no idea how much they knocked off.
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White Room
I pay £20 for Level2 from a local supplier so not a bad price from Topps.
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White Room
That's even better🙂
Tilemaster level flex, best slc Ive used
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StevieBoy
Here you go Andy, is this all right for you? 😛
Tiled in 3 hrs in lovely slow set adhesive, as I never use rapid as you know.
Incidentally that would have proved fatal, as I had to slightly adjust the position of some of them after each row progressed, which you would never have done with rapid set.
Just got to grout up on Monday.
So there you go.
As I said earlier, you can self level if you like 😉
I'll stick to leveling the floor and rapid set.
Lot less hassle imo. ..
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StevieBoy
Where's the hassle? Lol.
Prime floor, set out, mix up and stick tiles.
Easier than self levelling - each to their own.
The hassle. ..lol having to set every tile with a rubber mallet!!!
Then go back and grout the next day!!!
Like you said each to there own.
what adhesive do you use?
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StevieBoy
Lol, why is it a hassle to set each tile with a few taps of the mallet????? 🙄
I use the one I use all the time. Topps slow set white, which is Palace.
Do you go to work on a pushbike or summat? 😀
Your always moaning on about going back the next day to grout. So what??
I have got to grout the shower cubicle anyway, which again was done with slow set, and prep the bathroom etc, so will still be a 7 hr day which is enough for me.
Do you use a lot more adhesive @steveboy using your cowpat way? I guess savings on slc offset it though.
O
On one
Is your adhesive manufacturer happy for you use their tile adhesive up to that depth?
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StevieBoy
More than normal yes, but it's cheap at Topp's. 😀
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StevieBoy
H
hmtiling
I'd be using ptb on that
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StevieBoy
Oh yes, definately.
I tiled it today, but no-one will be going on it until Monday.
Even then, I'll check it and if not dried I'll give it another day etc.
Joking aside, and I have been having a bit of a laugh here, but with these tiles they have like a fake grout joint running through the centre.
Now, I set them using 2.5mm spacers which was fine on the first row, but on the second row to get the fake joints lined up was fine, but one or two tiles were actually smaller in size, so needed tweaking to position as best as poss.
With rapid set, you wouldn't be able to have done this as by the time you'd laid the first row, gone back started the second you wouldn't have been able to move any in the previous row.
So yes, I always use slow set on floors no matter what anyone else says.
How can you guarantee your work when you exceed the manufacturer recommended thickness of adhesive?
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StevieBoy
Right ok, so another change of topic then - no probs.
With this addy, I have done loads, and I mean loads of jobs this way - but for sure no more than 20mm in depth, and never had any issues whatso ever.
If that was the case, I'd lay some off cuts in first. Or use some cheap B & Q tiles etc.
So far I've stopped myself getting into this with you but the fact is the way you lay floor tiles is wrong...
The recommended way is to lay a rib of adhesive using a notched trowel and fixing the tile using a twisting motion back buttering the tile will unsure an even better bond, any uneven floors should be leveled using a suitable slc so the recommended thickness is adhered too.
Any adhesive manafactures pdf will say exactly that and if you can show me one that recommends packing b&q tiles under them to build up the floor or blobbing down cow pats of adhesive to lay tiles then I would love to see it..
The recommended way is to lay a rib of adhesive using a notched trowel and fixing the tile using a twisting motion back buttering the tile will unsure an even better bond, any uneven floors should be leveled using a suitable slc so the recommended thickness is adhered too.
Any adhesive manafactures pdf will say exactly that and if you can show me one that recommends packing b&q tiles under them to build up the floor or blobbing down cow pats of adhesive to lay tiles then I would love to see it..
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StevieBoy
Lol oh deary, deary me.
I must have been laying all the tiles I've laid in my time all wrong then.
Yeah, it'd be nice to have snooker table type walls and floors to lay on etc and do text book tiling lol.
I'm not a text book tiler, the method I use works for me, as it did for the guy that taught me the trade for nearly 30 years yawn yawn.
You can't argue with the pictures I have provided, all tiles are laid on a solid bed of adhesive, just thicker than the norm.
Let's just leave it at that now as I'm getting bored.
I really couldn't care less how you lay your floors your the one that felt the need to bring the subject up again ( post 39) I was bored a long time ago...lol
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Qwerty
There will clearly be no agreement on this matter.
If you have indeed been laying tiles this way since you started tiling, then yes, you have been doing it wrong all this time. This is according to British Standards and guidelines set by the TTA and every adhesive manufacturer I have ever known as well as every tiler I know.
But, on the other hand, if it works for you and you are happy with this method, then no heated words exchanged on the forum will change that. If you are happy to stand by your fixing methods and happy that it is time effective, cost effective, will not fail and that the adhesive manufacturer you use would approve of said fixing method then don't let any man on here tell you otherwise. After all, it's your customers, your tiling & your business.
We are merely stating facts and how we do it, how we were taught to do it and how the adhesive companies expect us to do it.......personally if I ever caught any tilers laying off cuts or cheap tiles underneath to level a floor I would pack their tools up there and then and wave them goodbye.
If you have indeed been laying tiles this way since you started tiling, then yes, you have been doing it wrong all this time. This is according to British Standards and guidelines set by the TTA and every adhesive manufacturer I have ever known as well as every tiler I know.
But, on the other hand, if it works for you and you are happy with this method, then no heated words exchanged on the forum will change that. If you are happy to stand by your fixing methods and happy that it is time effective, cost effective, will not fail and that the adhesive manufacturer you use would approve of said fixing method then don't let any man on here tell you otherwise. After all, it's your customers, your tiling & your business.
We are merely stating facts and how we do it, how we were taught to do it and how the adhesive companies expect us to do it.......personally if I ever caught any tilers laying off cuts or cheap tiles underneath to level a floor I would pack their tools up there and then and wave them goodbye.
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StevieBoy
W
White Room
Is that one of those plastering straight edges Craig leaning on the fire place??
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StevieBoy
Thanks for that.
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