Silicon instead of Grout!

[Clare]

Hello

I am really upset and need some expert advice.

I have had some tiles put on my en-suite floor and walls this week. They are black porcelain. The tiler recommended silver/grey grout and we went ahead with it.

He said yesterday he had finished and I was shocked when i saw what he had done...he has grouted using the silver/grey, but then in the 4 corners of the room where the walls meet, from floor to ceiling he has used shiny white Silicon! Oh my word, what a contrast to the rest of it...I may as well have had flashing lights! he has tried to tell me this is normal procedure, but I have had many bathrooms fitted over the years and havent seen this yet! can someone advise me if this is right? I am sure it is not, it looks dreadful!

please help.

:sad_smile:

 

[Fekin]

Walls move, so if grouted the grout may crack over time, where as Silicon is flexible and will move with the walls without cracking.

A lot of tilers always do the wall joints in Silicon as it makes them a flexi joint, but I know colour can sometimes be an issue, so it depends on what colour Silicon you can get.

I must say I have only ever seen whitre and ivory Silicon, but Im sure if searched for you may fine a company that makes an assortment of Silicon colours.

 

[Roamer]

I cant see why he didn't use the approiate colour............

get him back in and put it right

 

[DHTiling]

you have to put expansion joints in the corners yes...but why didint he use a coloured one to match the grout........dave.....

 

[Clare]

But surely having the bathroom look professionally finished and maybe having to re-grout in years to come (which is inevitable as bathrooms do date as everything else does), then it has to be better than having something that looks totally ridiculous, just because it 'may move'!

 

[Fekin]

I meant over time could be as little as a few months, if that., and as dave has said, it must be easy to get colour matching silicones, I've just never had to look for any yet.

 

[Clare]

Nope...silver/grey grout and pure white Silicon...it is sooo obvious! he is coming back to grout at my request, but was trying to justify to us for about half an hour that what he had done was the norm!

 

[DHTiling]

Its not a case of it may move ... it will with moisture and thermal changes in the room.....if the siliconing is done neatly then you can hardly tell..sounds like this Silicon joint you have must be on the thick side is it....dave...

p.s...you can get black Silicon as well as many other colours ...

 

[Fekin]

Using Silicon is really the norm, he just needs to colour match it to the tiles better.
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I would guess since the tiles are black porcelain and silver-grey grout, then a white Silicon line even on the thin side would still stand out, but if there are a wide selection of Silicon colours then there must be one to match better.

 

[Clare]

Thick? Its thick in some places. thin in others! I should take a photo and show you. I am not a pernickity person at all, but this is truly dreadful.

ok, so Silicon is normal, and I understand why now guys, thank you, but I will ask him to match the colour.

Thank you

 

[Fekin]

Yes the line should be pretty much the same thickness all the way down, unless the walls are way out off line, but if they were then the tiler should of advised this before starting out.

 

[DHTiling]

tell him to get a black Silicon clare...dave..

 

[GazTech]

Bal Microseal Grey...contains Microban anti-bacterial available from ....guess who...you buy it Clare.and insist he uses it or refuse to pay him....you havn't payed him have you ?

 

[Clare]

Just had a thought...you guys arent my tilers are you?!!! ha ha!

Really appreciate your unput really everyone, I have lost sleep over this!

 

[DHTiling]

no probs..let us know how you get on....dave...

 

[Clare]

dave...would black Silicon not look just as odd with the rest being silver/grey? The white Silicon is used in the most random of places!

 

[DHTiling]

was just a thought..trying to disguise the expansion joint in the corner...either grey or black would look fine..your choice really...dave...

 

[Fekin]

Blacks gonna look far better than white, even better is to try match the grout.

 

[Clare]

Gaz...he has done the whole en-suite...4K in total, paid 3300 so far, but have 700 retained. Seems a lot of money for something that really looks...well...odd!

I have a topps tiles in chester. I'll pop there on Sunday and see what they have. I think he should be the one paying for it though not me!

 

[GazTech]

Gaz...he has done the whole en-suite...4K in total, paid 3300 so far, but have 700 retained. Seems a lot of money for something that really looks...well...odd!

I have a topps tiles in chester. I'll pop there on Sunday and see what they have. I think he should be the one paying for it though not me!

Fair comment Clare,make him suffer ....this is where to go lol...Gaz
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[Clare]

Right...off to bed now guys, more chilled than last night and today after your advice.

Glad I found this forum this evening..you've been a great help. Nitey nite.



Clare 🙂

 

[GazTech]

nite nite

 

[DHTiling]

nite nite

ha! wait till i tell peg..lol lol lol........dave..

 

[CJ]

Mapei do 26 colours of silicon.............This tiler only seems to keep white in his van:icon9:

If he only keeps white and clear..........he would have been better off using clear

 

[devonmark]

He can always use a clear...invisible..

 

[CJ]

Said that Dev :wink_smile:

 

[devonmark]

Said that Dev :wink_smile:

i must learn to read properly...lol

 

[Fekin]

Gaz...he has done the whole en-suite...4K in total, paid 3300 so far, but have 700 retained.

Jesus christ...

 

[grumpygrouter]

Jesus christ...

Ditto, was that just for tiling? Where can I get jobs like that? Was it in Buck Palace?

Grumpy