Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the back

[c james]

Hi Guys,

I rescued about 9 pallets of limestone 4 years ago from the skip as a few damaged edges, only 10% so I have a lot of useable ones.

Question is should I seal the back before applying the adhesive.

Ball super cover or Wber rapind white are my favourite choice.

The front has got a few stains from when they were left outside so know I need to clean this before sealing the front.

All tiles are bone dry as stored inside for 4 years.

Just unsure if sealing the back effects tile adhesive.

Many thanks in advance.

Christian

 

[Tony73]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Hi, don't seal back of the tile. but you need back butter with tile adhesive as you lay them.

 

[Tony73]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

oh and defo seal face of tile before use

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Thanks Tony, I was also hoping to avoid any bleeding colour from the tile adhesive as made that mistake a while back.

Cheers for quick reply

 

[The D]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

I do sometimes seal the back of light stone it will do no harm

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Thanks for the reply DNA, will the sealing of the back of the tile stop any bleeding of white tile adhesive through to the front, especially if the odd dot and dab is required.

Cheers

CJ

 

[White Room]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Thanks Tony, I was also hoping to avoid any bleeding colour from the tile adhesive as made that mistake a while back.

Cheers for quick reply

What tiles were they then...

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

CJ dot and dab are swear words on here.😳:lol::lol:

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Hi WB

600 x 400 natural limestone from european heritage 15mm thick, they have a London polution thin coating of black crap on the edges and the odd purple water mark when left outside.

Residue remover has worked on a few test ones.

Cheers

Christian

 

[Dan]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Never dot and dab!

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Sorry Phil, but a Old victorian property, which i swear at daily, but sometimes needs must.

Just had to rebuild the floor oversite before the expensive raychem ufh does down £2000 bill on materials and hard work, at least the floor is level and doesnt need D and D

I understand and thanks for the heads up.

Cheeers

CJ

 

[White Room]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Missed that one....

 

[Tony73]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

I know european heritage in fulham , London. Never sealed back of the tile, but well as long as it does not effect on grip with tile adhesive :lol:.

 

[Dan]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

You shouldn't ever need to dot and dab tile.

If you need to account for an unlevel floor then still spread the adhesive on the floor as normal and apply a few dollops to the back of the tile, but when you press the tile down, it should still be 100% covered.

Dot and dab would suggest you're not getting a solid fix and your tiles are level, but could come away or at least break really easily at some point in the future.

Dot and dab is for plasterboard!

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Tony good guess, that is my conundrum does it effect grip and with a bone dry tile any bleed of colour from the adhesive, and missues away and being pregnant I have 1 week to work this out was going to start tiling tiling tonite but thought best ask a question.

Many thanks

CJ

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Thanks for the advice Dan, was using on the extremities top or side bits.

Lesson learnt.

CJ

 

[White Room]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

I'd be using a rapid adhesive as well....

 

[mattle40]

I personally wouldn't seal the backs,
Just make sure as stated above, that you "back butter" the tiles, this will at least ensure no "shadowing" if you don't achieve 100% coverage everywhere which is of course what you should be aiming for

Good luck ;-)

 

[Tony73]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

I would also advice to take sharp edge off of tile, with 129 or 240 sand paper (if it's not done), looks so much better

 

[The D]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

There is anoter test i need to do and put on youtube I have done this for 20 years on light stone that is prone to bleed through. I have never had a problem with adhesion but I only do it because it is the way I was told to do it so I think a test is in order

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

thanks Mattle, good tip thanks Tony

Cheers all

CJ

 

[Tony73]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

no problem, and good luck with your project

 

[Tony73]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Test is allways good , i only work with natural stone for about 10 years. But there is allways something new to learn

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

OMFG,

Just went to lay a few tiles, they are not square got a 3-4mm difference, I use the rubi batten stands with empire blue levels the super expensive ones.

Got my combination square out and yes not square.

I did buy a FLEX tile cutter with fence as thought I might need it, cost me £550 water fed and a great bit of kit.

Question is now how to salvage the tiles as too good to skip, I could go rustic and not care about the tile gaps but thought I would throw the problem out hoping for a wiser solution.

Many thanks again.

CJ

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

is it cool to say they are from fired earth and have the hand made look .....?

CJ

 

[Tony73]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

chek if they all out of square, or just few. Or even if most are out, you could recut. would not lay them as it is

 

[Tony73]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

can we see some pictures?

 

[White Room]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Probably why they were skipped....

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

OK image here i hope,

I just did some mosiac tiles from fired earth a real headache as no lines ever matched, just checked with pregnant gf with her parents away all ok.

So at the end of the day another question is can skill make a crap tile look good to the friends visiting......?



Thanks

CJ

 

[c james]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Dammit I dont think pound land would have sold these lol

 

[Tony73]

Re: Rescued limestone from the skip, advice on whether to seal the bac

Just watch diamond jubilee concert on tv tonight :8:, relax. tommorow will be more members here to advice . And check few more tiles if they same