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Hi all started on site work today and really nift off, first off the company i work for is called calibre i said to the guy where is the primer for the walls, he said we don't prime walls no need too. The i get given a kitchen 5sqm with 10 sockets and a window to tile around in brick bond. set all the job out and started tiling and low and behold there was no power so the guy said there is a plot up the road we will be tiling later which has power on you will have to mark your cuts and pop up there to use the wet cutter, i thought for FFFFF sake. Gets to the wet cutter and the saftey guide was bent and kept dropping off and no saftey glasses. He said you will be alright just watch the health and saftey rep doesn't come round. Any ways the guy will not pick me up i live 4.7 miles away from his house. so i have to drive to his house at 6am in morning to get up to crewe for 8am he then ffff off at 3pm today i have only got 3 sqm done low and behold for £12 per sqm. I popped up the road to see the guy and he was starting with a full tile in the corner from the bottom in the shower and it was a powershower. No tanking in there or priming. He also told me to butt the tiles up together and use no spacers on the brick bond he did the same in the bathroom just butted the tiles up and then grouted later.

IS THIS SITE LIFE ??? ARE THEY TAKING ME FOR A RIDE ?? WHATS THE NEXT STEP??
 
thats's site work for you..bang em on and move on to next plot..customers problem in years to come is there attitude.........dave..
 
rough and fast!! learn to become this and you cant go far wrong! seriously though, to earn any decent money you have to be really really quick and its hard to do this without cutting corners
 
Well i'm sorry but i'm not a cowboy, i might not be that fast and yes i would love to be but doing the job right and i would be well nift off if the tiles dropped off after 13 months, i have been called out to loads of cowboy jobs with tiles dropping off in showers and wet rooms leaking
 
Im a perfectionist myself but when doing site work you just cant be. You can still do a good job ,but believe me you wont spend half as much time on preping, setting out, grouting and cleaning as you would in a domestic situation,you just wont earn anything. so my advice is dont do it if your not comfortable.
 
site work is ****e work ....stick to domestics to build up a good "rep"...but sometimes this isn't possible when first starting out..but its your decision..........dave..
 
Yep, I did a tiling job for a shop fitters a while back and was basically told they wanted me to tile with mosaics, starting from the bottom corner of a wall, full sheet and thats it, no propper measuring out or anything, just start with a full sheet and work along, so thats what I did.
 
to many cowboys in this trade, no wonder why the goverment is clamping down on it all, its the companies who sub the work out should be shot.
 
Hi all started on site work today and really nift off, first off the company i work for is called calibre i said to the guy where is the primer for the walls, he said we don't prime walls no need too. The i get given a kitchen 5sqm with 10 sockets and a window to tile around in brick bond. set all the job out and started tiling and low and behold there was no power so the guy said there is a plot up the road we will be tiling later which has power on you will have to mark your cuts and pop up there to use the wet cutter, i thought for FFFFF sake. Gets to the wet cutter and the saftey guide was bent and kept dropping off and no saftey glasses. He said you will be alright just watch the health and saftey rep doesn't come round. Any ways the guy will not pick me up i live 4.7 miles away from his house. so i have to drive to his house at 6am in morning to get up to crewe for 8am he then ffff off at 3pm today i have only got 3 sqm done low and behold for £12 per sqm. I popped up the road to see the guy and he was starting with a full tile in the corner from the bottom in the shower and it was a powershower. No tanking in there or priming. He also told me to butt the tiles up together and use no spacers on the brick bond he did the same in the bathroom just butted the tiles up and then grouted later.

IS THIS SITE LIFE ??? ARE THEY TAKING ME FOR A RIDE ?? WHATS THE NEXT STEP??
Unfortunately, site work is very fast and aggressive - in the sense that your setting out simply involves a glance at the wall / slapping the gauge rod against it to check and making sure your bottom row of cuts are cut into your floor (a prop mounted laser level is good idea to help in the initial setting out).

You do this AFTER you have primed the walls, letting it dry whilst getting the tools out your van....

Then its a case of following your setting out lines and banging them tiles on.

Sometimes its a good idea to get hold of a lad to grout up and do the donkey work. Put him through his CSCS and get him a labourer card, if your on site. Sometimes it pays to pay someone to help get the job done quicker and easier. You will make your money back for the labourer on the time you save.

Site work is all done to a timeline, so unfortunuately sitting back and admiring what you have done at each stage is a non runner.

On the positive side, site work is guaranteed money, with low overhead costs (advertising etc), thats why some people like it. And normally the walls are clean & fresh with no obstacles to get around.

The problem with small time developers is that they offer crap money (as they want the maximum return) and they are flying by the seat of their pants (as they don't reall think about any major planning when doing the refurbs).

Major developers are better, as they have a vast amount of planning experience with a bigger budget if things go wrong. They of course want a big financial return, but because they develop on a massive scale, a few pennies here and there is not a real problem to them, compared to small developers.

And for some strange reason, small developers seem to think they are GOD and can speak to you like crap.

STAND YOUR GROUND AND WALK OFF SITE IF YOU ARE NOT HAPPY WITH THEIR DECISIONS OR PROCESSES
 
Well i'm sorry but i'm not a cowboy, i might not be that fast and yes i would love to be but doing the job right and i would be well nift off if the tiles dropped off after 13 months, i have been called out to loads of cowboy jobs with tiles dropping off in showers and wet rooms leaking
call back when people have moved in and post cards, you'll get good business one day, lol.
site work is not for me i'm afraid..Mark.
 
Site work sucks. Thats why I'm pulling a shower area out of a very expensive house. Private work every time, or builders you get to know, who are on the ball.
 
This is why the idea of doing site/contract work fills me with dread!

You go into pretty much any toilet of a pub or club or whatever and you can see that they have just started in the bottom corner and usually ended up with small cuts everywhere looks a mess.

Is it just me that scrutinises the tiling of every toilet I go in?

Gaz
 
I havent even done ma first job yet and I'm checking out tiles in boozer toilets... FFS this is it begun!! lol
 
Think I'll avoid site work if thats what its like. Don't think I'll buy a new build house either
 
On the site I worked on so many houses were Housing trusts, they had there own inspectors checking the quality of work every couple of days, the propertys that were being sold, did'nt seem to concerned. 35 years ago on council housing sites you had a clerk of works and he was'nt letting you get away with nothing.
 
Is it just me that scrutinises the tiling of every toilet I go in?

LOL 😀

I've just finished my first tiling job (my own bathroom) and I found it very reassuring that I had done a much better job than any of the pub toilets in the town (and WAY better than the toilets in the Glasgow Ikea 😱)
 
hi mate where in crewe are you working?
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there are plenty of good main contractors out there fellas, my books full of them, ditch the bad and keep the good, 3/4 of my income is from site work but i have done it for a long time, if the contractor turns up on a horse and says things like "the hell i will" or they sing "rawhide" get in the van and go.

p.s. this reply is only for old fogies over 35, the young uns wont know what i am talking about, your good friend hoss
 
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Maybe the attitude to take is do as the site asks after all they are the customer so to speak and try not to worry about the end result if it is done how they wanted, although you do run the risk off not being employed by them in the future when the work is snagged and they have to pay out for doing it again properly. It seems all sites are not like this though, months ago I was offered site, nice new walls and power where you needed it, £20 a metre supply your own grout and adi. The trouble was they wanted everything bang on no corner cutting and for a 3.5 metre kitchen with loads off sockets earning £70 over 2 days did not appeal. In fact I know that they were losing a tiler on a weekly basis and had to continualy get a replacement.
 
talking to a contract tiler the other day who works for various local builders. Never primed a wall for 20 yrs!!! As Chase said, fast and aggressive!!
 

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