How practical is this

[aflemi]

Thought the bathroom installers particularly would be interested in this. A day by day run through of an install (a la Macten). There are a couple of things I wasn't sure about and I'm interested to see if others pick up on them. However my main question would be the shower with a wet-room former stepping down onto the floor, but no screen. I would have thought there would be a lot of mopping up after every shower and although ditra has been used under the ufh, it's hardly a full wet floor install. Interested to hear others views on the job though............

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[Colour Republic]

It's debatable on how much spray would come out of such a large shower without seeing it in action but some will for sure, it's made worse because of the raised elevation of the shower tray, so any water that does come out will sit on top of the tiles rather than draining away enough to allow quick drying times. If it proves that not enough water comes out of the shower area to penetrate the floor then I would imagine that it requires a fair bit of maintenance to keep such a light coloured grout looking its best. Either way it is a nice install even if it does have some design flaws

 

[brian c]

maybe it was being fitted at a later date.

 

[davy_G]

14 days, they dragged that one out!

 

[tommyzooom]

Nice, Not to keen on the plastic bath panel though

 

[Colour Republic]

Just had another look and missed this the first time round, i'm not sure I like this...

How many of you have done this?

http://www.essexbathroom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/splash-toggle1-057-Medium.JPG

 

[Gazzer]

Would that be the thermostat probe going "under" the wires ?? :yikes::yikes:

 

[faithhealer]

very nice looking job,

 

[jay]

floor heating upside down sticky side up no sighn of tanking or w/p patches in shower of top coat interesting also cold spot at end of bath brrrrrrrrrrrrr:8:

 

[heavytrevy]

Nice work mate,
Im just about finished a bathroom with an open shower.

I post up some pics next week to show u how us Aussies fully screed a bathroom and waterproof / tank it

Regards
Trev

 

[aflemi]

Nice work mate,
Im just about finished a bathroom with an open shower.

I post up some pics next week to show u how us Aussies fully screed a bathroom and waterproof / tank it

Regards
Trev

Cheers mate but not my work.
I was really interested in that part of their design, and how the sub-floor was protected from the water splashing out of the shower. It's hard to tell but it looks like they have done the floor as: replace f/b with chipboard, laid ditra straight on it then ufh, slc then tile. Is that base strong enough?
Apart from the whole soaking the floor issue eg my wife spends at least 15 mins in the shower, the water would be everywhere I dont see anything about tanking, though they may have done it.
Also lot of skim plaster on the facing wall and large format tiles with tubbed adhesive (on the face of it).
Dont like the bath panel either, the way it finishes off at the boxed in end, I would have inset the whole bath, looks much better when the end is exposed.

 

[Deleted member 1779]

Its a fantastic finish so well done on the design / layout.

My only concern is this plasterboard by the bath.

I hope the installer sealed the plaster prior to tiling over it. The bath is likely to contract and expand as water is added / removed letting water into the joints.

Unless there was an absolute perfect 100% seal then the plasterboard is going to be a bit soggy. But perhaps he did something to waterproof it prior to tiling.

Must say its a lovely job !

A tiny website nitpick is that as a business they are legally obliged to state their physical business address on the website rather than just a contact form and a free phone number. This is a requirement of the Companies Act 2007. However its not widely known.

 

[peckers]

Just had another look and missed this the first time round, i'm not sure I like this...

How many of you have done this?

do you mean the heating cable and the slc above the ditra???

 

[Colour Republic]

do you mean the heating cable and the slc above the ditra???

Yeah,

I'm not keen on the heating cable beeing in direct contact with the ditra but maybe it doesn't get that hot. But also the SLC over the matting and ditra, it looks like a fairly thick mix and I can imagine air pockets between the matting and ditra where it hasn't worked through the matting. Also wouldn't it stop the ditra from doing it's job?

I'm not sure it might be perfectly OK, but the above and a few more issues aren't sitting right in my head

 

[curlycan]

Just had another look and missed this the first time round, i'm not sure I like this...

How many of you have done this?

I don't know too much about ditra properties but do you still need insulation boards under the ditra mat as it looks like a concrete floor.

 

[Colour Republic]

Is it also tiled straight on to bonding?

 

[Colour Republic]

I don't know too much about ditra propertese but do you still need insulation boards under the ditra mat as it looks like a concrete floor.

No it's a chipboard floor underneath, the full pictures are in the link in the first post

 

[curlycan]

No it's a chipboard floor underneath, the full pictures are in the link in the first post

ok sorry eyes are getting old now lol.

 

[aflemi]

I don't know too much about ditra properties but do you still need insulation boards under the ditra mat as it looks like a concrete floor.

Should the process not be (bottom up) Chipboard, additional strengthening or just 25mm ply instead of both, insulation (possibly as 25mm ply fairly insulating), ufh mat, slc, uncoupling/tanking membrane, tiles?

I'm still interested in how people view the practicality of the lack of shower screen. Also the tubbed addy over 4 day old skim plaster for large format tiles.....

 

[heavytrevy]

Well the lack of a general waste and of course no fall either outside the shower i would be worried.
The water will stand and eventually over time make its way thru the grout.

tubbed addy is safe up to a 10 mm trowel, but leaves u without the option to pack out if required

also if used in the shower recess it needs to be a D2 formulation otherwise the water will dissolve it lmao

Trev

I'm still interested in how people view the practicality of the lack of shower screen. Also the tubbed addy over 4 day old skim plaster for large format tiles.....

 

[aflemi]

Well the lack of a general waste and of course no fall either outside the shower i would be worried.
The water will stand and eventually over time make its way thru the grout.

tubbed addy is safe up to a 10 mm trowel, but leaves u without the option to pack out if required

also if used in the shower recess it needs to be a D2 formulation otherwise the water will dissolve it lmao

Trev

With large format tiles and with 4 day old plaster skim I would have thought it would struggle to set in the middle. Not ideal............

 

[heavytrevy]

It will set but you should allow up to 2 weeks depending on the weather .

Trev

With large format tiles and with 4 day old plaster skim I would have thought it would struggle to set in the middle. Not ideal............

 

[macten]

I've pulled up 600x600's that have been down with tubbed stuff for 8 months - I could have done a couple of splash backs with what I scraped off the middle!

 

[faithhealer]

I've pulled up 600x600's that have been down with tubbed stuff for 8 months - I could have done a couple of splash backs with what I scraped off the middle!

Tore off smaller tiles than that and found the addy still soft

 

[Benny Tiler]

A friend of mine has a wet room with no shower door / screen and it's a pain. They have a squeegee mop type thing to mop up after every shower. Also, if someone's had a shower and you go in to use the toilet...wet socks everytime :incazzato:

 

[mikethetile]

nice job

nice website but needs a proof read

 

[macten]

Maybe the screen hadn't arrived and will be fitted later.
Lovely looking job at the end but I wouldn't have done a few things like plaster board shelves and plastic plumbing pipes.
The UFH and floor prep seems wrong to me too but I haven't layed one yet so am not in a position to comment.
Got one coming up soon though and I shall be picking your brains so I get the job done right guys.

 

[Sean fsy]

Its a fantastic finish so well done on the design / layout.

My only concern is this plasterboard by the bath.

I hope the installer sealed the plaster prior to tiling over it. The bath is likely to contract and expand as water is added / removed letting water into the joints.

Unless there was an absolute perfect 100% seal then the plasterboard is going to be a bit soggy. But perhaps he did something to waterproof it prior to tiling.

Must say its a lovely job !

A tiny website nitpick is that as a business they are legally obliged to state their physical business address on the website rather than just a contact form and a free phone number. This is a requirement of the Companies Act 2007. However its not widely known.

my concerns were all the cut tiles lying about on the bath(balancing onto the bath) and also cut tiles left standing ontop of the new worktops that arent covered over.