I couldn't agree more. But...... Someone will will get offended, then it'll turn into an argument, and then the mods have no choice. That's forums for ya! 😉
I couldn't agree more. But...... Someone will will get offended, then it'll turn into an argument, and then the mods have no choice. That's forums for ya! 😉
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charlie1
Forums provoke extreme views, look at us lot about the right way to install square pieces of clay haha
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Concrete guy
Politics and religion all in one thread. This should shape up to be a nice level conversation.
For the record I'm atheist and don't really mind who wants to live with who as long as they are polite and decent human beings and don't feel the urge to impose their ideas on me.
For the record I'm atheist and don't really mind who wants to live with who as long as they are polite and decent human beings and don't feel the urge to impose their ideas on me.
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Colour Republic
Living in Brighton it stands to reason that I know a few gays in the village, personally I couldn't care less what they get up to in the bedroom as long as it doesn't invlove me! To me these people are friends first and gay second, so for that reason I do believe in the eyes of the law, that they should have all the rights I do. But it's not my fight or for me to campaign for them.
So here's a question for you. Given the number of members on this forum, it is with almost certainty that a percentage of them are gay. Maybe that other member you chat to on a regular basis, one you would even consider a friend? Would you treat them any different if you found out their sexual preference? Would you feel different about gay marriage if it involved one of your friends?
Seeing as this new law does not errode any of my personal rights, or affect me in any way, I can't think of a single reason I should be against it. Ok if I was deeply religous I might be, I get that, but i'm not and so it doesn't. I'm just happy someone elses rights have just been improved.
Brighton is a very cosmopolitan city and the best thing about it is nobody gives a damn about what anybody else gets up to. Be gay, tattoo your face, walk around naked, nobody gives a damn or even gives you a second glance because Brighton is full of eccentrics, get over yourself. Brighton has the attitude that as long as your way of life doesn't impact me or you impose yourself on me, then knock yourself out. I can't think of a better way to live myself.
errr kinda went off topic there😳
So here's a question for you. Given the number of members on this forum, it is with almost certainty that a percentage of them are gay. Maybe that other member you chat to on a regular basis, one you would even consider a friend? Would you treat them any different if you found out their sexual preference? Would you feel different about gay marriage if it involved one of your friends?
Seeing as this new law does not errode any of my personal rights, or affect me in any way, I can't think of a single reason I should be against it. Ok if I was deeply religous I might be, I get that, but i'm not and so it doesn't. I'm just happy someone elses rights have just been improved.
Brighton is a very cosmopolitan city and the best thing about it is nobody gives a damn about what anybody else gets up to. Be gay, tattoo your face, walk around naked, nobody gives a damn or even gives you a second glance because Brighton is full of eccentrics, get over yourself. Brighton has the attitude that as long as your way of life doesn't impact me or you impose yourself on me, then knock yourself out. I can't think of a better way to live myself.
errr kinda went off topic there😳
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Stef
Each to their own I say,
I know plenty of people that are gay & if that's what they want to do then that's up to them.
I attended a gay wedding in the Algarve in 1999, it was held at my sisters villa in Val de Lobo.
There was a bit of a kick up at the time & they had to have security at the gates as a few locals weren't happy.
It was a fantastic night..
I know plenty of people that are gay & if that's what they want to do then that's up to them.
I attended a gay wedding in the Algarve in 1999, it was held at my sisters villa in Val de Lobo.
There was a bit of a kick up at the time & they had to have security at the gates as a few locals weren't happy.
It was a fantastic night..
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Gazzer
I know a few Gay people, I wouldnt say they were my friends as in a social scene but when we do see each other its no problem at all. My neighbours are Gay ( women) again no issue at all .
I have met all sorts over the years and their business is none of my business !
I have met all sorts over the years and their business is none of my business !
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charlie1
Gays are simply people born in the wrong type of body... Like me, I'm just a lesbian born in a guys body so I know where they are coming from!
Aren't we all lol!
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Qwerty
It seems alot of people deemed it necessary to give their opinion on homosexuality in this thread and have totally skirted around the original question about opinions on the meaning of marriage. Only a few of us have actually done this. I would get a more satisfying discussion out of my 4 year old daughter! I despair at times!!!!
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Colour Republic
Certainly haven't skirted around the issue. It seems your definition of marriage must be very different to mine.
First and foremost it is a statement of intent or comitment to your partner, personally I think that's all it should be, but seeing as the law treats married couples differently than non-married, then it can also be a necessity to safeguard your future together.
Marriage isn't owned by religon.
First and foremost it is a statement of intent or comitment to your partner, personally I think that's all it should be, but seeing as the law treats married couples differently than non-married, then it can also be a necessity to safeguard your future together.
Marriage isn't owned by religon.
Congratulations on being the first person to resort to insults! Give yourself a big pat on the back... :19:
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Qwerty
And some of the other comments aren't!??? Mine is an emphatic statement, not an insult. There is a distinct difference. I rest my case about a more satisfying discussion!
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Colour Republic
Yes it has been very stimulating to see you are open to discussion on the subject, rather than point blankly refusing to believe marriage is anything other than a Christian event**yawn**
I assume you think hindu's, muslims, buddists, rastas, atheists... have no right in getting married, after all marriage is christian right?
Your religous beliefs dictate what marriage means to you, I have no problem with that, nor should I have. I certainly won't try to change your mind on what marriage means to you, but don't dismiss what it might mean to billions of other people on the planet who aren't Christians.
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Qwerty
Thank you for acknowledging this is my opinion (as Doug requested).
Sadly your assumptions on me are incorrect. I have never once stated marriage is only a Christian event and who said I was ever dismissing the meaning of marriage to others? I was discussing my opinion!!!!!!
Sadly your assumptions on me are incorrect. I have never once stated marriage is only a Christian event and who said I was ever dismissing the meaning of marriage to others? I was discussing my opinion!!!!!!
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Colour Republic
Well I stand corrected then.
Your opening post about religon by default means you are against gay marriage, other peoples posts about homosexuality and gay marriage by default explains what marriage means to them but you claim many have missed the point. They didn't, you missed their point.
Anyway not trying to get in an arguement with you, just thought some of your comments above were rude.
Your opening post about religon by default means you are against gay marriage, other peoples posts about homosexuality and gay marriage by default explains what marriage means to them but you claim many have missed the point. They didn't, you missed their point.
Anyway not trying to get in an arguement with you, just thought some of your comments above were rude.
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Qwerty
Which ones?
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Colour Republic
This one ^^^^^
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Qwerty
If that offends you, then what can I say?.......sorry. It was a deliberate emphatic statement as I stated previously, and to be fair was far less rude than a handful of other derogatory comments in this thread.
I never knew grown men were so easily offended by a 4 year old child's intellect! .......or was it the fact that I despair that was rude?
Anyway, way off topic......and as you stated, not wanting to argue. I love a good discussion.
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That was a bit of tongue in cheek humour by the way!
I never knew grown men were so easily offended by a 4 year old child's intellect! .......or was it the fact that I despair that was rude?
Anyway, way off topic......and as you stated, not wanting to argue. I love a good discussion.
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That was a bit of tongue in cheek humour by the way!
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Colour Republic
In that case I vote we have a gay man hug xx
What does that involve exactly? Lol
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Qwerty
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One Day
Surely the "Christian" (deliberate "") view of marriage should come from the belief that it was God who put a man and women together in the 1st place?
Just my two-penneth.
As for the equality agenda as I see it; it's now not enough for people to accept different beliefs and lifestyles and to happily live and let live. If they don't actually approve and celebrate them then they run the risk of being branded a bigot or homophobe (which actually annoys me as I'm not scared of anyone!)
Just my two-penneth.
As for the equality agenda as I see it; it's now not enough for people to accept different beliefs and lifestyles and to happily live and let live. If they don't actually approve and celebrate them then they run the risk of being branded a bigot or homophobe (which actually annoys me as I'm not scared of anyone!)
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One Day
And for the record I think that the general view of marriage these days is as throwaway as a 3 year car lease. No commitment required, trade in for a new model whenever you feel like it.
(I'm happily married 15yrs with 3 children and I value my marriage, work hard to maintain it and keep my promises no matter what)
(I'm happily married 15yrs with 3 children and I value my marriage, work hard to maintain it and keep my promises no matter what)
Don't know what all the fuss is about with Gay Marriage. Gays have been putting rings on fingers for years. :sofahide:
And there's no arguments over who left the toilet seat up either.
And there's no arguments over who left the toilet seat up either.
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Mr Tiler
Same as most, couldn't care less and i beleive you cant judge somebody until you are perfect yourself. But i also don't think it should be all over the place as i don't want my son to question who he is because he is influenced as a child. Are kids not confused enough in this day and age.
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Diamond Pool Finishers
Well i,am live and let live , we have some gay girls living three houses away and they are both very nice people as far as i'am concerned ,what anyone does (within reason & within the law ) in there own houses is up to them .........so i must say i have got over the gay thing now.........
You been sneaking a peek through the net curtains?
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