just went to the job centre!!

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

with Tom my lad to see if there was any funding for young peeps to go on training courses
:yikes: i was shocked the government has taken away 90% of funding!! ,no hope for lads/lasses wanting to be in any of the building trades, he said there are no jobs for them to go in-to!! the government say we have to many in these trades now!!:yikes::yikes::yikes: where are we going with this attitude there is still work out there and jobs but there wont be with this attitude, he said come next year the job centre might not be there :yikes: very shocked gooner

 

[Deleted member 9966]

who said the job centre might not be there?
and who said there was already too many trades?

I have to agree, there is work out there. It's all National Minimum Wage jobs in customer services, retail, telephony, data input and so on. But we could always go back to the way it was before New Labour came to power if everybody wants?

The jobs are there, people are just going to have to find ways of skilling themselves to make themselves marketable in a highly competitive jobs market.

 

[Dan]

Yeah and I think this'll be the case for some time. I spent a couple of hours with a 20 year old plumber the other day making sure his CV and cover letter was as perfect as I could get them. And I gave him loads of advice in regards to what to change for each individual application so that his skills matched what the employer required for the candidate. That's something I always used to do with my own CV's and it paid off big time over and above sending a generic one with all applications that didn't always suit the requirements for the job.

He ended up applying for a few different things while he's waiting back on loads of plumbers he's send his CV to, so I helped him change the CV to suit things like customer service and whatnot as he'd done a bit of it but not really said it in his CV.

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

who said the job centre might not be there?
and who said there was already too many trades?

the guy at the jobcentre fool!! (in a mr T accent ) lol

 

[SandyFloor]

Where do the staff laid off from the job centre go when they're looking for a job?

 

[Dan]

:lol:

ooOOooO Good one Sandy! I'd have guessed they have to go to agencies and generally apply directly like most of us would do anyway?!

Wonder who'd give them advice though?! CAD might take over it if there's some truth in it? Might be hear-say?

 

[mikethetile]

who said the job centre might not be there?
and who said there was already too many trades?

I have to agree, there is work out there. It's all National Minimum Wage jobs in customer services, retail, telephony, data input and so on. But we could always go back to the way it was before New Labour came to power if everybody wants?

The jobs are there, people are just going to have to find ways of skilling themselves to make themselves marketable in a highly competitive jobs market.

please get informed before making these statements

gooners not off the mark and theres worse to come, at least the last government made an attempt to train youngsters and give them self respect, thiss government has pulled the plug on all training , so thats the end of that, they are telling youngsters to find voulantary work to gain work experiance as theres no money

how do I know this

like Dave I took my daughter down for an interview and like Dave I found out that the system may change and job centres will be closed down

 

[Dan]

Are they saying they're closing as they can't get people work or something? As in it's not working well due to jobs not being filled? Or don't the guys in the jobcentres know more than what they've been told sort of thing?

 

[Deleted member 9966]

please get informed before making these statements

gooners not off the mark and theres worse to come, at least the last government made an attempt to train youngsters and give them self respect, thiss government has pulled the plug on all training , so thats the end of that, they are telling youngsters to find voulantary work to gain work experiance as theres no money

how do I know this

like Dave I took my daughter down for an interview and like Dave I found out that the system may change and job centres will be closed down

and which part of my statement is ill informed Mike?

Do I not work in the job industry? Do I not search the jobcentre website regularly to see what jobs are out there currently? Do I not speak with recruitment agencies and look at internet job boards to see what industries are big business at the moment?

So, how am I not informed? I thought this was a place to air my opinions. In my opinion, there is work out there. If there's no training, well then, there's no training or funding available for training. I've never relied on the government for any kind of state supported training and education beyond the age of 18.

Funding for upskilling and re-training was a New Labour initiative, and I am not knocking it. I am merely saying that if the money is not there, then it's not there. Adults and youngsters alike will have to find other ways to re-train.

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

people that go and ask for training (youngsters ) dont have the money/means to fund training though liz, it shoild come from the industries that will gain from them being trained-up, and a lot if not all are on there knees!! so how would you propose that a youngster finds other ways to train in there chosen path??

 

[mikethetile]

Are they saying they're closing as they can't get people work or something? As in it's not working well due to jobs not being filled? Or don't the guys in the jobcentres know more than what they've been told sort of thing?

cost cutting , staff have been told that they may have to apply for other jobs within the benefits system as a lot of job centres will close

 

[Deleted member 9966]

people that go and ask for training (youngsters ) dont have the money/means to fund training though liz, it shoild come from the industries that will gain from them being trained-up, and a lot if not all are on there knees!! so how would you propose that a youngster finds other ways to train in there chosen path??

I never said I was a miracle worker Dave. I'm merely stating that if there's no funding then people have to be more imaginative about how they get trained. I don't have all the answers and if I did, I would be Prime Minister and not the ConDems.

I got my training for HR and personnel via my employer. I was lucky to fall into a job that offered training to upskill me. After spending 3 years at university, I came out into the job market with no marketable skills. I'd been studying Economics for 3 years, not Accounting or Law. I had nothing to offer new employers so all I could do was settle for a low paid job and work my way up to where I am today. University proved useless for me until recent years.

As for industries being on their knees, yes, some are. But I work in the Chemicals industry and it's growing and even booming in some areas, despite the fact that we don't have enough youngsters coming in the industry in jobs like Chemical Engineering, Research and Developmental Chemistry, Production Operatives as well as Middle management jobs.

 

[mikethetile]

and which part of my statement is ill informed Mike?

Do I not work in the job industry? Do I not search the jobcentre website regularly to see what jobs are out there currently? Do I not speak with recruitment agencies and look at internet job boards to see what industries are big business at the moment?

So, how am I not informed? I thought this was a place to air my opinions. In my opinion, there is work out there. If there's no training, well then, there's no training or funding available for training. I've never relied on the government for any kind of state supported training and education beyond the age of 18.

Funding for upskilling and re-training was a New Labour initiative, and I am not knocking it. I am merely saying that if the money is not there, then it's not there. Adults and youngsters alike will have to find other ways to re-train.

all of it

 

[Deleted member 9966]

all of it

and how is it ill informed Mike? Where have I gone wrong?

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

well perhaps its time that some of the booming industry's should help out other areas of the economy come back to life financially by being taxed harder then!!

 

[DHTiling]

Moved thread to correct forum.. (Again)..

 

[Deleted member 9966]

well perhaps its time that some of the booming industry's should help out other areas of the economy come back to life financially by being taxed harder then!!

that's one way of doing it Dave. have you suggested it to the Government?

In 2011 my employer will be doing its bit for the economy with the expansion and recruitment plans we have.

 

[Aston]

did anybody see torres's second goal against chelsea??? or maybe andy carrolls goal that sunk the gooners?? :lol:

 

[DHTiling]

did anybody see torres's second goal against chelsea??? or maybe andy carrolls goal that sunk the gooners?? :lol:

:lol: ........

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

as people of the UK i think we are stupid,letting the Banks get-away with this mess so lightly, they should pay hard for the years of exploitation they have got away with

 

[mikethetile]

read back through your posts Liz

all your oppurtunities have come from Labours spending. you have no idea what it was like under the tories last time but you will soon

I went with my daughter last week as her college course has been pulled and I tried to get her training for something else. I had the same experiance as Dave

you argued with Dave despite not having been in with a youngster to get them signed on to a course

and you should hear your self hammering kids coz you have a job and they dont, if theres no money they cant be trained

thats a national disgrace and all those that support that view should be ashamed of them selves

there are no jobs or oppurtunities for youngsters to go for

 

[doug boardley]

I hate political threads.

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

Newcastle :lol::lol::lol: one game dont make a season, they will sink soon, flash in the pan 😛rrr: back where they belong at the bottom lol!!

 

[Deleted member 9966]

read back through your posts Liz

all your oppurtunities have come from Labours spending. you have no idea what it was like under the tories last time but you will soon

I went with my daughter last week as her college course has been pulled and I tried to get her training for something else. I had the same experiance as Dave

you argued with Dave despite not having been in with a youngster to get them signed on to a course

and you should hear your self hammering kids coz you have a job and they dont, if theres no money they cant be trained

thats a national disgrace and all those that support that view should be ashamed of them selves

there are no jobs or oppurtunities for youngsters to go for

so shoot me for having my opinion on this. just because I wasn't working during the last Tory government doesn't mean I don't remember it. it doesn't mean I haven't read and studied about it. How many times do I have to say I'm not knocking what New Labour did for us? Go back and re read my posts Mike. I actually asked if anybody would like to go back to how it was before New Labour brought in all these training and funding initiatives. Labour took us forward, there's no denying that.

But now times are hard and we have to accept that the money isn't there anymore.

 

[Deleted member 9966]

as people of the UK i think we are stupid,letting the Banks get-away with this mess so lightly, they should pay hard for the years of exploitation they have got away with

It wasn't the banks Dave. It was the management people (fat cats) of the banks who exploited the system and ended up with good pensions. for those ordinary bank workers, they didn't get the same treatment and are now treated with contempt by Joe Public and yourself. my husband was a banker and I am proud to say he will receive the bonus he was entitled to eventually.

 

[mikethetile]

I think they should be banned Doug

Dave posted his experiance, which happened to be the same as mine

why was it made political and why was the last goverment even mentioned when it was the condems that are responsible for this

 

[mikethetile]

why are bankers getting productivity bonuses for doing the jobs they are paid for, put them on peice work and watch the banks save money

 

[Colour Republic]

I've never relied on the government for any kind of state supported training and education beyond the age of 18.

I was just about to write a massively boring post but Liz put it in to a nice little sentance above.

At what point did it become the states (i.e. the tax payers) burden to train people for a new job? Does it help the economy? debatable as to the amont of cash that is lost training people who will change their mind. Does it cost me and you revenue in the same way the dole does? IMO yes. New labour may have put these schemes in place but we all pay for them in some way... this point on taxes could also become a North south divide. Do you know it costs £120 a year to park outside my front door? How much would you pay to park outside your house?


... ok I did the boring reply 🙂

 

[DHTiling]

Newcastle :lol::lol::lol: one game dont make a season, they will sink soon, flash in the pan 😛rrr: back where they belong at the bottom lol!!

oooooooh bitter are we.. did you cry into that pint when CARROLL scored..:lol:..


I think gunners will do well this season..

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

i dont hold people that work in high-street banks responsible, its the fat cat bankers liz

 

[doug boardley]

oooooooh bitter are we.. did you cry into that pint when CARROLL scored..:lol:..


I think gunners will do well this season..

I don't..:lol: