Is this wall and floor tiling acceptable? - TilersForums.com

[Tess]

Brill. He’s done correct thing there. Get a cert from them for that

has he given / will he give you his vat number. It will be on the invoice.

Yes and I've checked it's a real one.

 

[acaciaguy]

Is there anything in the invoice that you didn’t agree to pay for. Or won’t told about before it happened.

 

[Tess]

Is there anything in the invoice that you didn’t agree to pay for. Or won’t told about before it happened.

We didn't agree a further £120 for an extra sq.m of tiles he added on. Quote changed in various ways including one less cabinet made but seems the materials costs are the same as quoted, I'm just more aware of what a hike up that is, now I see what he actually installed. I agreed to materials with the verbal caveat that he wouldn't charge me for things he didn't need to buy (i.e because i was buying so much) and the written agreement that he would take off his "allowances for" big products which I ended up buying after paying him VAT on half of them in the original £4070 invoice. He bracketted allowances and deducted those that I bought as well as deducting some for the trims, grout, sealant and maybe waste pipes which I bought. His quote is laid out in quite a confusing manner. He quoted separately for materials and labour and then added vat of 20% to both.

 

[Dumbo]

If he is vat registered he has to pay vat , if he is not vat registered and he is charging vat that is illegal he is defrauding the crown and will get into trouble .

 

[acaciaguy]

Yes and I've checked it's a real one.

Vat or electric

 

[Tess]

That goes for labour too.. now I see it was all hyper-inflated

Vat or electric

Real VAT number, registered.
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He doeesn't think these gaps are a problem but I think they will allow water ingress, the big disk is the shower mixer and it's not attached, bare ceramic can be seen underneath.

 

[Dumbo]

If he has clearly charged you for things he hasnt supplied , and what i think youre saying is he has charged you for more cabinets than he has supplied , tell him youre not paying for them, that is clearly dishonest.
As for showing labour and materials seperately on an estimate that is not confusing that is transparency in what he is charging , and he has to charge vat .

 

[Tess]

If he has clearly charged you for things he hasnt supplied , and what i think youre saying is he has charged you for more cabinets than he has supplied , tell him youre not paying for them, that is clearly dishonest.
As for showing labour and materials seperately on an estimate that is not confusing that is transparency in what he is charging , and he has to charge vat .

He's not charging me for the missing cabinet but he is charging me for "provisions for sanitary ware" as in above messages in addition to 1.5k fitting but not supplying electric toilet/ sink/ bath and high charging for all materials (1800+VAT when I think the cost was more like £550) Reading through our emails I see he said: "If some work will not be done for some reason it will be removed from the quote or if there will be some extras it will be added on", so if he didn't change any "provisions for sanitary ware" by which I take to mean waste pipes/ feed pipes then he shouldn't charge me the money - but what if he did do this job and it took him 1hr with £5 worth of materials, do I now have recourse to say £600something for that task is exorbitant and I won't pay so much? If he has separated materials from labour do I have a right to see those receipts or say, I can see now that is toooo much for what you actually supplied?
Thanks for sticking with the case!

 

[Dumbo]

You have no right to see the receipt.
It is very confusing to keep up with you.
Your 1.5 and your 1.8 k and 550 i cant follow at all .

 

[Boggs]

What a pickle, this is why I supply and fix only to a fixed price.