Best Tile Cutter Blades - Rubi Cpc, Montolit Dna, Ats Diamond Blade And Dewalt Wheel

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Gazzer

Ever in my search of understanding price v quality of diamond wheels I have in my possession now a Rubi CPC, A Montolit DNA, An ATS and a DeWalt wheel. All these go onto the DW24000 and all the same diameter.
Now while its not a fair test as I am expecting teh Montolit wheel to be the better of the bunch ..a.s it should be if price is anything to go on....but what would you be looking at when trying a new wheel in your wet cutter?

Best Tile Cutter Blades - What's the best tile cutter blade out there?
Rubi CPC, Montolit DNA, ATS Diamond Blade and DeWalt Wheel​

Minimal chipping ?
Speed ?
Smoothness ?
Long lasting ?
Noise ?...yes some wheels produce more noie than others.
Would you accept less than perfect if the price was right ?

I will be cutting some Lounge Dark Grey Porcelain tomorrow and trying all these wheels to see for myself, hopefully if weather permits I can take a few photos too.
 
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Minimal chipping/cleanness of cut is the most important to me, even if it takes a little longer to cut, that's the most important factor.
 
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Same as Bri but if the blade was shot after one job then they'd have to be mega cheap.
 
I think we could be in for a shock here Neale.
It will be surprising to see the real world results of these blades.
I have just swapped over to the DNA for my Dewalt & it gives a very good cut.
 
Well I am thinking that it will be as expected with the more expensive of the wheels performing best but how much the difference is ...who knows ?
 
I'm really looking forward to this test.

We've sold a large number of these blades at 115mm, 125mm & 200mm (so many 200mm we've run out of stock). We have a 180mm in the pipeline, but we've never sold a single 250mm.

I'm wondering if the price is actually putting people off, along the lines of it can't be that good if it's a quarter of the cost of a premium blade.

What I'm really interested in is how it performs compared to blades that are three and four times the price. Should be a good test, that's a proper cross section of value you've got there. In hindsight I should also have sent you up a 250mm continuous rim porcelain blade as well as the turbo one.
 
I'm the same as others- minimal chipping and a nice clean cut paramount. Interesting to see how they perform on a 45' too as I heard some blades stray and found this on my old Rubi wet saw. Never experienced it on my dewalt though. Looking forward to the results Neale 🙂
 
Same as everyone else, minimal chipping and smoothness of cut which I find I get with the DNA blade but for the price it should be. If I found a similar blade that done the same and cheaper then I'd give that a try.
 
Sounding like a broken record in here, minimal chipping is a must. Rubi wheels give a lovely cut but seem to wear quite quick, Marcrist is probably my wheel of choice for porcelain but I keep some from Beava for almost everything else. Really good value budget wheel.
 
ATSDiamondTools said:
I'm really looking forward to this test.

We've sold a large number of these blades at 115mm, 125mm & 200mm (so many 200mm we've run out of stock). We have a 180mm in the pipeline, but we've never sold a single 250mm.

I'm wondering if the price is actually putting people off, along the lines of it can't be that good if it's a quarter of the cost of a premium blade.

What I'm really interested in is how it performs compared to blades that are three and four times the price. Should be a good test, that's a proper cross section of value you've got there. In hindsight I should also have sent you up a 250mm continuous rim porcelain blade as well as the turbo one.
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Any plans to make a 'J' groove DNA/Sigma type blade? A 250mm for around £100 would be an instant hit.
 
Best Tile Cutter Blades - What's the best tile cutter blade out there? - Results coming in.

Rubi CPC, Montolit DNA, ATS Diamond Blade and DeWalt Wheel

Well I had forgot that I had thrown the standard Dewalt wheel away as it had reached the end of its life. So I had the Rubi CPC, The ATS diamond wheel and the Montolit DNA to try.
First of all I used the Rubi CPC and the cut was good enough for me with very minimal chipping, mostly you could not tell the cut edge from the factory finish.
I then swapped wheel for the ATS diamond wheel. Having used their wheels before I have experienced that its best to run through a few tiles before testing so as to bed the wheel in. This I did and the started cutting ....I was left with a very acceptable cut but with more chipping than the Rubi CPC. I tried about 20 cuts and then stoped to change wheel.
Up next was the Montolit DNA wheel, I had high hopes for this wheel but experienced the same chipping as with the ATS Diamond wheel. Although not drastic it wasnt what I had hoped for. I also noticed that the Montolit seemed louder..in fact it was very uncomfortable on my ears !

I fully expect the later 2 wheels to improve after a good bedding in period and I believe the secret with the Rubi CPC wheel was the continous rim which gave the best finish.
Time will tell how long these will last but if I had known or seen these wheels in action before I would have probaly gone for the ATS diamond wheel and saved a small fortune !
I know some of you may disagree with this but I can only speak as I find. I will upload a few photo latter and see if I can get them in the correct order. :thumbsup:
 
I put a DNA on my grinder at the start of the year and have to say wasn't overly impressed, I switched back to the pro-gres around July time and it is definitely the better of the 2. Strange how price doesn't always reflect the best quality.
 
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Bri said:
I put a DNA on my grinder at the start of the year and have to say wasn't overly impressed, I switched back to the pro-gres around July time and it is definitely the better if the 2. Strange how price doesn't always reflect the best quality.
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Which is the point I am trying to find, In this case, so far at least I dont think price is justified,
 
Sir Ramic said:
Which is the point I am trying to find, In this case, so far at least I dont think price is justified,
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Massive difference for a DNA, and by the sound of it it isn't justified. I've had my dewalt 2.5 years now and I'm still on the first blade, I reckon the 2 blades that came with it will last me 10 years, I only do stone with it though, might be different if I was putting porcelain through it every week.
 
20131210_092515.jpgThe DNA and the ATS wheel

20131210_095116.jpg20131210_112602.jpgThe Rubi DNA wheel.

20131210_112024.jpg20131210_112019.jpgThe ATS Diamond wheel

20131210_112324.jpg20131210_112332.jpgThe Montolit DNA wheel.

These are the worst of the cuts.
 
The rubi looks the best by far, the other 2 do look like they need bedding in a bit, the Monty especially.
 
This is interesting thanks Neale.

I knew I should have sent up a Porcelain continuous rim also.

I think you're right that the design of continuous rim will provide a better cut by default.
 
Yes the continous rim would have been better but i was shocked by the DNA wheel.....after all the hype it has received I expected a lot better !
 
Wonder how the inverted 'A' from diatech would compare for around £100 for the one that fits the dewalt 24000 (fair price)!
 
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Wonder how the inverted 'A' from diatech would compare for around £100 for the one that fits the dewalt 24000 (fair price)!
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If they want to send one I will tell you :lol:, Actually I think thats the one Joe @Hillhead has talked about.
 
I will give it a try but I thought fairer that i used the wheels on the same machine and although the 230mm Sigma 86C wheel and the 86b could fit the DW2400 i would need a bore reducer from 30mm to 25.4mm
 
Yeah, didn't think about that one. We do have the sleeve to bring the bore size down if you ever needed one.
 
Yeah I remember you saying, I will run a tile through the 9P when I get chance with both wheels though and see the results....not looking forward to getting it dirty though !!!
 
I'm going to send the pics back to Italy Neale. They will love to see what you done with it. Vauxhall blue?. :thumbsup:
 
yeah It was the closest colour I could get from Halfrauds, Vauxhall Pastel Blue.
I wish I had gone for powder coating now....Oh well i will save that for when I get a 10M :lol:
 

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