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Flintstone

As above really. With regards to the quantities, I don't know the area or how much adhesive you bought but I would expect to use 1 x 20kg bag per 3m of tiles. My best advice would be to get them all up and get a reputable tiler in to give you the job you really want, as this builder is not going to give you that
 
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One Day

In my experience with Porcelanosa in warrington and manchester, they were always a bit lean on the adhesive but supplied enough grout for 10mm joints!
 

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In my experience with Porcelanosa in warrington and manchester, they were always a bit lean on the adhesive but supplied enough grout for 10mm joints!

And the tiles from Porcelanosa are normally 100% sized right so no excuses for different size grout joints!!!
 
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Tommythetiler80

Yes this is bad and I hope that this chap fixes what tiles he has done wrong. But maybe a picture of the kitchen floor panned out may not look too bad? And it may be a handful of tiles that need refining...........nevertheless it's your dream kitchen so I hope you get this resolved
 
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Dumbo

Cheers for the response, he is using the same guy that laid them to rectify them which is even more awkward as he swears blind he's done a good job, he's actually brining in a joiner tomorrow to cut the architraves, so he's clearly never done this before. I've never laid a tile in my life but even I could work out the best way to tile around a door is to cut the bottom of the architrave and slide the tile underneath.
I think in that paragraph the only relevant word there is blind
 
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Reggiethethird

So, the general consensus seems to be that I'm not being overly picky.

It was suggested that I give the contractor the opportunity to rectify at his expense, which they are doing now, if this turns out even worse, which is my gut feeling at the moment, we will have to make a decision on getting a professional in.

With hindsight we should have delayed our kitchen install and ripped and replaced. We have been without a kitchen now for nearly 5 months and delayed the install twice already. I feel we went ahead almost out of desperation. We are genuinely gutted about this floor. To answer some questions.

The floor is approx 55m2.
We had 12 bags of 25kg adhesive originally and ended up ordering another 10 bags.
The adhesive has been laid thick on tile and floor.
No substrate has been used, tiles laid directly on concrete screed.
Our kitchen installer had to adjust the island as they noted a 6mm deviation covering 1.5m on the tiles.

Regarding the comment about doing our home work, that's fair and one of the main reasons we wanted to work with a contractor we trusted. We spent a year working through detailed quotations to select someone reputable. Apart from the tiling most other trades have been decent. This is the first renovation project I have done and with hindsight I would need to vet every trade... I stupidly assumed if I was paying for a ceramic floor to be laid, it would be installed by a tiler....

Your comments and suggestions are all much appreciated. I'll update with pics after the remedial work is finished.
 
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Reggiethethird

Yes this is bad and I hope that this chap fixes what tiles he has done wrong. But maybe a picture of the kitchen floor panned out may not look too bad? And it may be a handful of tiles that need refining...........nevertheless it's your dream kitchen so I hope you get this resolved
Here is a pic of the floor from a wider perspective.

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Reggiethethird

After day 2 of remedial work to fix the issues here is the good the bad and the ugly. Thankfully our decorator and joiner have taken a look and feel confident they can disguise the huge gaps where the architraves have been cut. I'll let you guess which were cut by the plasterer/tiler whatever he is and the joiner.

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It looks like it could be salvageable cosmetically for the time being, but unless you know how the tiles were fixed you will not know the longevity of the tiles. You may be lucky and they stand the test of time. You will probably notice the grout cracking first as an indicator as to if they were fixed correctly.

Apologies for being a little harsh in my first response but a lot of customers come on here and complain about tilers work and on a lot of occasions, all they have done is choose the cheapest quote, which generally is a disaster waiting to happen. As you said you thought that the contractor would bring in the relevant trades to complete the works, which is a fair assumption. It's always better, but not always possible to meet with the different tradesmen prior to starting, and you should get a feel for them.

You could buy the plasterer/tiler a tape measure as a parting gift :thumbsup:
 

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