wall tiling kitchen

[dean39]

Hi all,going to price my first job tomorrow,its a kitchen,punter wants me to tile over existing tiles,is this recommended?what adhesive/sealant should i use?,should all walls be primed,dont know what tiles are on the wall as wont see him till tomorrow morning at 9am,got the call yesterday.im a bit nervous so any guidance from you chaps would be a great help,many thanks to all.🙂

 

[DHTiling]

Would be better to advise customer to remove old tiles first.....you wont know how well these are fixed and you dont want to inherit someone else's tiling..
prime walls with bal bond-- ratio 4 parts water to 1 part bond..make good walls ..
acrylic adhesive will be fine....

 

[dean39]

Thanks for prompt reply,the punter is a friends dad and he is adamant he wants tille over tile,should i walk way if he sticks to his guns,its my first job and dont want to seem picky,any advice would be welcome mate,thanks again.🙂

 

[DHTiling]

Dont get me wrong tiles can be tiled over....if the are in exposed areas then you will have double tile thickness showing...

But if he is adamant to tile over them ... then wash down with sugar soap and use bal whitestar to tile with......dave..

 

[dean39]

Thanks for prompt reply,the punter is a friends dad and he is adamant he wants tille over tile,should i walk way if he sticks to his guns,its my first job and dont want to seem picky,any advice would be welcome mate,thanks again.🙂

Can you advice me which trowel/grout to use mate?thaks for your replys,Dean.:angel_smile:

 

[DHTiling]

just use a thinset trowel ( 4mm) will be fine...use bal super flex wall grout........dave

 

[McP77]

Will probably say this on the whitestar but if tiling over tile you need to wait longer before grouting for the adhesive to dry properly. 3 days if I remember rightly.

 

[DHTiling]

Yes it will take longer to set on impervious backgrounds...so you could use a spf adhesive if want to fastrack the grouting process......

Its just that tub gear is easier for newcomers to use ...rather than powder mix which has a shorter pot life...thus wasting adhesive.................dave..

 

[dean39]

tHANKS FOR YOUR REPLYS,ESPECIALLY DAVE,LET YOU ALL KNOW HOW I GET ON WITH JOB.DEAN.🙂

 

[DHTiling]

no probs dean mate.....post some pics aswell in the gallery...... dave..🙂

 

[Fekin]

I'd tell the customer to think on if any original tiles do come away from the walls with your new ones on then it's not your fault, after you have completed and being payed for the job, and you will not offer any form of warrenty for the job in this case, and will be charged for any problems that need sorting out afterwards.

Or say nothing, and only come out with this if it does happen in time to come.

 

[dean39]

Thats a good call fekin,thanks for the advice mate,cheers🙂

 

[GazTech]

I cant add anything to Dave's posts,good advice as usual,good luck with the job

and remember mate it is not a race

 

[McP77]

prime walls with bal bond-- ratio 4 parts water to 1 part bond..make good walls ..
acrylic adhesive will be fine....

Is this just to get a better bond with the substrate or for another reason?

 

[DHTiling]

Is this just to get a better bond with the substrate or for another reason?

If he's pulled the tiles off and the walls dusty etc... then prime......

wot would you do mcp77????

 

[McP77]

Making walls good I usually prime with APD and put a thin skim of rapid set to level out. Is that wrong?

 

[IvegotsTILE]

I just been to quote someones kitchen floor tonight,they just called me back saying they want it done and are happy with the quote,they also now want me to do all the walls aswell that are tiled to the ceiling.(I had a good check while I was there just in case it might be a future job and their very sound)I explained that its possible to go over old tiles and to be fair cheaper that getting me to remove the old ones and prep the walls but I would advise against it because of the weight ratio and because I was going over someone elses work which I couldn't vouch for.He said that it was him who put the tiles on and that there was no way they would come off,not being one to turn work away I said I could only do it on the condition that I could not give a guarantee on that work and he'd be happy to sign something saying that I advised against it and that I was only carrying out the work the way he specifically asked for it to be done.
He said thats totally fair and he'd be happy to sign anything that I wrote out for him.At least I'm covered and to be fair there that well stuck on I'd probably take the whole wall down trying to get them off.

 

[DHTiling]

You did right there simon mate.....spot on.............dave..

 

[GazTech]

I just been to quote someones kitchen floor tonight,they just called me back saying they want it done and are happy with the quote,they also now want me to do all the walls aswell that are tiled to the ceiling.(I had a good check while I was there just in case it might be a future job and their very sound)I explained that its possible to go over old tiles and to be fair cheaper that getting me to remove the old ones and prep the walls but I would advise against it because of the weight ratio and because I was going over someone elses work which I couldn't vouch for.He said that it was him who put the tiles on and that there was no way they would come off,not being one to turn work away I said I could only do it on the condition that I could not give a guarantee on that work and he'd be happy to sign something saying that I advised against it and that I was only carrying out the work the way he specifically asked for it to be done.
He said thats totally fair and he'd be happy to sign anything that I wrote out for him.At least I'm covered and to be fair there that well stuck on I'd probably take the whole wall down trying to get them off.

very sensible approach Si well done