Which is the Best Tile Adhesive for Floor Tiles?

[NVH Stone & Cer]

At the age of 35 years young and tiling all my working life. I have used most adhesives out there. But i must say to all fellow tilers if you can get to use KeraKoll try it. I stand by what i say "This will become the best in the world". It puts Mapei to shame.

 

[Gazzer]

At the age of 35 years young and tiling all my working life. I have used most adhesives out there. But i must say to all fellow tilers if you can get to use KeraKoll try it. I stand by what i say "This will become the best in the world". It puts Mapei to shame.

Rubbish, tried it and its just "Ok" and the forum has had a fair share of bad reports recently using it too.

 

[borgie]

i have used Butech from porcelanosa, the most this year, on site work. if i have to buy, it's mapei, due to price.

 

[Saltire69]

Use Mapei all the time but if they keep putting the prices up the way they are will be looking to change! Still get a good deal from Tile Giant though(Thx Gillian).

 

[NVH Stone & Cer]

As a new member on here and finding my way around. Can you please point me in the right direction to the bad reports on KerKoll. As for your comment of "just ok" i have to disagree with you. Other adhesives in the poll are "just ok". Any adhesive out of Italy is well above "just ok". Am also liking KeraKoll as a company with thier push on Environment impact that our trade makes. God sounds like i work for them PMSL

 

[Dan]

I know Dave had issues with some sample adhesive he recently used, I think it was their SLC actually, and he not only had issues, he tried to get support on the issue and he got no reply from them. He was well willing to give them a good go and was let down. I can't find the thread but it'll probably be in the adhesive forum somewhere.

Clearly Kkol hasn't been used much by our members in the last few years as our annual poll's show. There's normally a reason behind that.

 

[diamondtiling]

At the age of 35 years young and tiling all my working life. I have used most adhesives out there. But i must say to all fellow tilers if you can get to use KeraKoll try it. I stand by what i say "This will become the best in the world". It puts Mapei to shame.

Well we must all be doing something wrong, that is a big sweeping comment about mapei and fully unjustified. To compare them with Kerrakoll and describe them as poor is ludicrous.
I use 4 or 5 adhesives depending on what I am fixing and where in the country I am working, I tried kerrakoll twice, it was ok and that is how I would describe it, just ok, 5 out of 10.

As a new member on here and finding my way around. Can you please point me in the right direction to the bad reports on KerKoll. As for your comment of "just ok" i have to disagree with you. Other adhesives in the poll are "just ok". Any adhesive out of Italy is well above "just ok". Am also liking KeraKoll as a company with thier push on Environment impact that our trade makes. God sounds like i work for them PMSL

http://www.tilersforums.com/tile-ad...0-help-tile-grout-kerakoll-colour-change.html
http://www.tilersforums.com/tile-adhesive-grout-substrate-preparation/38346-kerakoll-adhesive-2.html

http://www.tilersforums.com/tile-ad...ation/34827-kerakoll-rep-ran-mile-warned.html

Many more available, some are good and some bad. But none of them make statements completely dismissing them.

 

[Dan]

Cheers Dom. Want a job? :lol:

 

[diamondtiling]

Cheers Dom. Want a job? :lol:

Just twiddling the old fingers Dan

 

[NVH Stone & Cer]

Sorry are we not all in the same game here. This is a poll to find most used adhesive and Mapei will be top next year too. At no point have i said Mapei is "Poor" in any of my comments. Mapei is the best in the world right now. Micky Mouse could start making adhesive and it could be the dog's nuts or dog's poo to use. But it could top the poll PMSL.

Have we all not had a problem with grout and colour changes in the past?

Two big companies didn't do a thing for my company this year when we had this problem. As a contractor yourself you know 9 times out of 10 we have to sort it out ourselfs. You may ask why i didn't use KeraKoll grout. A main contractor asked for a different make, and at the time of the other problem KeraKoll didn't have their new colour range out.

 

[Dan]

Sorry are we not all in the same game here. This is a poll to find most used adhesive and Mapei will be top next year too. At no point have i said Mapei is "Poor" in any of my comments. Mapei is the best in the world right now. Micky Mouse could start making adhesive and it could be the dog's nuts or dog's poo to use. But it could top the poll PMSL.

Have we all not had a problem with grout and colour changes in the past?

Two big companies didn't do a thing for my company this year when we had this problem. As a contractor yourself you know 9 times out of 10 we have to sort it out ourselfs. You may ask why i didn't use KeraKoll grout. A main contractor asked for a different make, and at the time of the other problem KeraKoll didn't have their new colour range out.

Actually, a new poll has been running annually for a few years now. And Mapei have sponsored us for the whole time, yet this year is the first year they're actually leading the poll (which still hasn't ended yet). So your claims are just your thoughts but not true. BAL has always had the lead, and that was also known within the industry (and this involved their quality and their availability). If you go to the first thread in this 2011 poll you can find links to the other polls and see the results for yourself.

Our polls are quite accurate and there isn't actually anything similar done for the tile industry by anybody else. It's nice market research for all the adhesive companies. Inc Kkoll.

 

[diamondtiling]

Sorry are we not all in the same game here. This is a poll to find most used adhesive and Mapei will be top next year too. At no point have i said Mapei is "Poor" in any of my comments. Mapei is the best in the world right now. Micky Mouse could start making adhesive and it could be the dog's nuts or dog's poo to use. But it could top the poll PMSL.

Have we all not had a problem with grout and colour changes in the past?

Two big companies didn't do a thing for my company this year when we had this problem. As a contractor yourself you know 9 times out of 10 we have to sort it out ourselfs. You may ask why i didn't use KeraKoll grout. A main contractor asked for a different make, and at the time of the other problem KeraKoll didn't have their new colour range out.

That was my mistake, I should have read back before typing.

Although "puts mapei to shame" is not much better.

 

[Dan]

Mapei are a decent adhesive and company IMO. Adhesives are brilliant, grout range is second to none and actually match their silicones which I find really good too. Though to be fair some say their adhesives are a bit stiffer than others, I tend to like it like that way but haven't used it day in day out all over summer for example.

And they're the worlds largest manufacturer of building materials with 47 factories all around the world. So you know for sure they know what they're doing.

 

[mikethetile]

I dont really understand why this has become a contentios issue the question was which addy did you use most this year

simple question just needs a simple answer

some have posted to say that for various reasons the addy they used most is not their addy of choice

but no one asked anywhere what we thought the best addy was or what we should be using

 

[NVH Stone & Cer]

Sorry Dan maybe that sounded wrong. Didn't mean the poll is micky mouse. I know it is bang on year in, year out. Just saying a new company can coming on the market and make adhesive, it can be good or bad. Some tilers will like it and other will not.

 

[Dan]

Fair enough fella. Thanks for explaining.

 

[mikethetile]

Sorry Dan maybe that sounded wrong. Didn't mean the poll is micky mouse. I know it is bang on year in, year out. Just saying a new company can coming on the market and make adhesive, it can be good or bad. Some tilers will like it and other will not.

that wasnt the question though Nigel

 

[Dan]

Anywayyyyyyyyyyyy, stonefix and timemaster don't seem to be doing well at all yet I'm sure I've seen a stonefix user knocking about this year. Perhaps they just didn't use it the most for obvious reasons?

 

[NVH Stone & Cer]

What was the question Mike?

 

[Dan]

What was the question Mike?

Which adhesive brand did you use most during 2010?

:lol:

And you've said Kkoll. End of. 🙂

 

[NVH Stone & Cer]

By the way diamondtiling had a nose at your work. VERY GOOD MATE. I'll get my up soon.

 

[Dan]

By the way diamondtiling had a nose at your work. VERY GOOD MATE. I'll get my up soon.

Sound, we love pictures here. 😀

 

[NVH Stone & Cer]

"End of" is for lazy people Mike. There is always more out there lol

 

[Dan]

I said end of then fella, not mike.

I could see this going in the wrong direction and I want it to be a sound thread as these polls get visited for years.

 

[mikethetile]

Nigel

first off you get a free second pair with specsavers

and secondly we love a good debate on here so start a new thread extolling the virtues of kkoll and ask what others think andd we will all join in

this thread is a poll asking which adhesive we used most this year

 

[NVH Stone & Cer]

Just playing along Dan. You know us tiler are thick skinned. Am bored at home with two kids round me today lol.

Sorry Mike did i not answer the question. Is it not my freedom of speech to add a comment to that too PMSL

 

[Dan]

Sorry to say but you're bordering on 'trolling' now which is against the forum rules (trolling is basically provoking another member to take the thread down the wrong road so to speak). Please start another thread on kkoll if you want to express your freedom of speech. 😀

Mike's right, this thread is for this questions and it's an important one so please just help us keep it about what it's intended to be, a thread simply noting what's being used and by who.

 

[kkoll]

I know Dave had issues with some sample adhesive he recently used, I think it was their SLC actually, and he not only had issues, he tried to get support on the issue and he got no reply from them. He was well willing to give them a good go and was let down. I can't find the thread but it'll probably be in the adhesive forum somewhere.

Clearly Kkol hasn't been used much by our members in the last few years as our annual poll's show. There's normally a reason behind that.

Sorry to jump on this one Dan, and I don't wish to take this thread in the wrong direction.

However Dave did indeed have an issue when looking to fix a decoupling membrane onto an anhydrite screed with H40 Eco Ideal. In short the adhesive did not cure by the next day and Dave had to redo the floor. I apologise if he has not been looked after since, we now have a rep on the area,and I will instruct him to get in touch and try to help Dave out.

Apologies again if this is leading the thread "somewhere else", if it is worth anything I think that the poll is a great idea, and it is quite rewarding for us to even be on there as I am pretty sure we probably were not on last years!!

 

[DHTiling]

The rep came out bill and neither him or yourself or even technical answered why..?


But lets not discuss it in this thread... Dave.

 

[Dan]

Sorry to jump on this one Dan, and I don't wish to take this thread in the wrong direction.

However Dave did indeed have an issue when looking to fix a decoupling membrane onto an anhydrite screed with H40 Eco Ideal. In short the adhesive did not cure by the next day and Dave had to redo the floor. I apologise if he has not been looked after since, we now have a rep on the area,and I will instruct him to get in touch and try to help Dave out.

Apologies again if this is leading the thread "somewhere else", if it is worth anything I think that the poll is a great idea, and it is quite rewarding for us to even be on there as I am pretty sure we probably were not on last years!!

Cheers for responding Bill, you're right I think this is the first year we've stuck you on there. We recognised a few people using it in the last when they voted for "other" though.

 

[kkoll]

The rep came out bill and neither him or yourself or even technical answered why..?


But lets not discuss it in this thread... Dave.

Dave I will PM you and see whether we can sort things out. Did you try the other samples just out of interest?