what is the best epoxy

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

grout to work with and why in your opinion .?
and how do they compare price wise ?
as i'am getting a price together for a hydrotherapy pool up north any point /info would be great

 

[Ajax123]

Kerakoll just brought out a range of epoxys . They will probably be looking to buy into the market

 

[White Room]

I've only used Bal but that was a while ago before doing the Mapei day....

 

[j_k_b]

don't but kerakoll products, they are not good and moreover they don't have business ethics.

 

[Dan]

Seems you have a bit of a gripe with Kerakoll j_k_b?

 

[piston-broke]

Ive recently grouted 400+m2 with bal epoxy on non slip floor tiles, easy to use an clean off.

 

[poynton phil]

Never used epoxy before, but have 176msq anti slip pocelain to do in a week or so. I'v bought Mapei Kerrapoxy.

 

[Thespanishtiler]

Litokol

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

Litokol

??? never heard of this one

 

[Thespanishtiler]

do google on it mate

it goes on and off easy as cement based.

the colour is produced by tiny balls of pigment i think.

if u can get some i would try it

 

[Dontiler]

Mapei Kerrapoxy for me, color well match with Silicon too 🙂

 

[Spud]

do google on it mate

it goes on and off easy as cement based.

the colour is produced by tiny balls of pigment i think.

if u can get some i would try it

Litokol have sold the uk distribution rights to Nicolls and clark so it is not as easily sourced now Rob and you will have to start buying it at the nicobond prices so it will be pricey now

 

[Thespanishtiler]

will live in hope mapei expand the design range to include jasmine then, I am sure its litokol grout in a mapei tub.

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

well i have prices for the top three, so we will base our price on the dearest of these

 

[G Taylor Tiling]

The Best Epoxy Grout Is Kerakoll New Liquid Ceramic Grout, It is So easy To Use & Wash Off 0-20mm Joints
Brillant The NEW EPOXY

 

[G Taylor Tiling]

Retails At Aprox£75 3kg Does Aprox 6-8 meters
But Trade should be Around £45

 

[Spud]

Any pictures of this kerakol grout

 

[hillhead]

The kerakoll is a stunning grout, nothing will stain it either.
I have used it and have a sample chart to test out.
Bit hard to clean off but most epoxys are.

 

[Mark@CTDtiles]

Ardex EG 8 has got to be worth a shout as well. [DLMURL="http://www.ardex.co.uk/ardex_eg8.asp"]ARDEX EG 8 from ARDEX UK[/DLMURL]

Seen a demo at Ardex and was well impressed no epoxy grout float or emulsifying pad used. They just washed off with normal grout float and sponge.

Any guys on here tried it?

 

[DHTiling]

Ardex EG 8 has got to be worth a shout as well. [DLMURL="http://www.ardex.co.uk/ardex_eg8.asp"]ARDEX EG 8 from ARDEX UK[/DLMURL]

Seen a demo at Ardex and was well impressed no epoxy grout float or emulsifying pad used. They just washed off with normal grout float and sponge.

Any guys on here tried it?

Not yet.

 

[poynton phil]

Hey Mark love the badge....

Its Kerapoxy for me, easy to use, and £50 for 5kg, from TG.

 

[G Taylor Tiling]

The official name for the new Liquid Ceramic Grout from Kerakoll
Is Fugalite Eco Liquid Ceramic Grout
Better than Epoxy, no need for emulsifying pads just wash off with a sponge & it's better for your health when using!
U tube it

 

[G Taylor Tiling]

Hi Gary
if you you tube: The Worlds best grout!!!

[video=youtube;08iaP6cPD8U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08iaP6cPD8U[/video]


Excellent!!

 

[kaharrison9]

I have a wetroom and floor mosaic coming up that will be epoxy.

Last weekend on the recommedations of Spanish i bought the epoxy N C are now selling called Starlike. £33-2.5kg trade to give it a trial

As Gary mentioned earlier N C Have now bought the old Litokol epoxy starlike brand.

I fixed 2m2 of old mosaics up and applied to an area,washed off left for half an hour then reapplied,left for half an hour again and continued.

I could still apply the epoxy 1 1/2 hours later and still sponge over the first areas of epoxy without it getting bitty and pulling out.

As for washing off best to use an emusifying pad but i did try areas with just a sponge and it did easily come off.


I beleive there is also a product they sell in conjuction that takes any epoxy resin off as well.


Also there is a glitter that can be mixed with the epoxy as well.

An amazing product,very smooth finish and no sweat at all.

Interesting to see if they have a good colour for stone.

Kev

 

[Spud]

used a lot of epoxy the ones i like are the bizazza fill -gel the litokol starlike and the mapei kerapoxy out of the 3 the mapei is the one I have found to be easiest to clean off and gave me the smoothest finish

 

[Spud]

I have a wetroom and floor mosaic coming up that will be epoxy.

Last weekend on the recommedations of Spanish i bought the epoxy N C are now selling called Starlike. £33-2.5kg trade to give it a trial

As Gary mentioned earlier N C Have now bought the old Litokol epoxy starlike brand.

I fixed 2m2 of old mosaics up and applied to an area,washed off left for half an hour then reapplied,left for half an hour again and continued.

I could still apply the epoxy 1 1/2 hours later and still sponge over the first areas of epoxy without it getting bitty and pulling out.

As for washing off best to use an emusifying pad but i did try areas with just a sponge and it did easily come off.


I beleive there is also a product they sell in conjuction that takes any epoxy resin off as well.


Also there is a glitter that can be mixed with the epoxy as well.

An amazing product,very smooth finish and no sweat at all.

Interesting to see if they have a good colour for stone.

Kev

I used a lot of the litokol Kev and it is a great grout the litonet gel gets any haze off only thing i dont like is the whites are not brilliant white and every method i have used with litokol has always needed a return visit the following day for a final clean to remove the haze

 

[KerakollJohn]

Hi All i thought it was about time we had a few genuine facts about Kerakoll and our product range. As far as business ethics go i actually ensure i meet every one of my fixers personally (Does any other manufacturer??) they get regular coffee and bacon butties along with full product back up and support 24 hours a day 7 days a week.... One of my customers actually got hold of me half way up snowden so as far as business ethics go id say were way ahead of the ''Marketing companies'' out there....

From what i know there was a problem many years ago (Obviously Mapei have never had any problems) and the usual suspects like to keep hold of this issue for many years... i happen to know of many issues that competitors have but as we are fully confident in our products performance don't feel the need to broadcast these issues. If your products are good enough you should'nt need to put your competition down in order to promote them.

As far as quality goes and performance id be happy to go head to head in front of as many fixers as would like to attend with our products... Fugalite will out perform ANY epoxy (If your unsure lets test it) H40 Tenaflex has the best grab of any adhesive on the market (Again if your in doubt lets test it) H40 Ideal fixing to Anhydrite will again out perform all competitors products (If your unsure lets test it) I'm sure no tests will ever take place as its easy to talk and market how good your products perform but putting it to the test in front of fixers is a different story.

i see on here theres lots of put downs regarding an issue Dave had many years ago... I cant comment on this but really do think its time people moved on to what Kerakoll have become. Apologies to Dave as no company wants any issues regardless of size. If you speak with any of our customers they will tell you they get A1 service back up support and a very personal touch. The team has grown over the last 5 years and as you will see the products are speaking for themselves now, regardless of lame attempts to put the company down.

As I say if in doubt lets put them to the test.... ''

Fear has its use but cowardice has none.''
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Cheers John

 

[Spud]

John when you say out perform what do you mean ? As a fixer I get fed up with all the hype from the adhesive companies, I have used tenaflex on a swimming pool job and really liked it but found it skinned over very quickly and the water was sucked from it very quickly on sand and cement render and I would recommend using primer with it to slow down the suction issue as regarding outperforming mosaic fix or pci nanolight or mapei p10 it doesnt it is in the same class all have good and bad points ,how does your epoxy better the competitors as most of the modern epoxies are again made in the same way and use similar technology and i was under the impression that litokol were the largest manufacturer of epoxy grouts in italy and manufactured some products under liscense for other brands ,for me again this is just my opinion adhesive manufacturers use smoke and mirrors and large marketing budgets to convince tilers that their products differ in some fantastic way from their competitors when in fact they are very similar this is not a dig at kerakol ,I like your products but just an observation from and end user ,I would be much happier if it came in a brown paper bag and you keep the price down .

 

[DHTiling]

Lame attempts to put down the company..?.. it was the very poor back up service from Bill that was to blame and i have still not had an answer... kerakoll this and kerkoll that is all i hear but your customer support is poor, very poor.. back up service 24hrs a day 7 days a week... don't make me laff... your company left me in the lurch and made to look a fool in front of my customer just because i believed the kerakoll hype and tried the product out on a very expensive marble floor..

I managed to salvage it but no thanks to kerakoll... or their staff..

 

[Thespanishtiler]

between me and Kev we need about 80kg of epoxy on 3 rooms on 2 projects over the next 4 weeks.

if the kerakol rep wants to brave it up north give me a pm and lets do a test

over 10 k worth of mosaics in this so its on you.

Rob

 

[kaharrison9]

I wonder Gary if N C have tweaked it at all.

Where i used an emusifying pad there was no residue and very clean.

Also i thought a very nice white as well,though a general word of warning to all,of the many differant mosaics i mounted up in the trial there was a golden covered mosaic and for some reason blue has bled into the grout as it dried and would have ruined a job.

Up to know have never had an issue with Kerapoxy but the starlike took out that urgency when epoxying.


The dirtest white epoxy i have ever come across cement and epoxy is Porcelanosa.


Will never ever use there grout again.

I recently had to rake out there epoxy before it set as it looked so dirty.