The Use Of The Multi Tool

[ANDY F]

Afternoon all.

I've been reading who uses a multi cutter on doors and architraves etc to get a tile to slide under, but do these cutters work on cutting tiles and has anyone any experience of this?

When I was having my drama the other week, trying to envelope a tile that was too big for my wet cutter (see how do I cut this? thread) the general consensus was to cut it with a grinder. Did it, neatish job, customer happy.

But what if its thrashing it down with rain outside, nowhere to get the grinder out (too much dust for inside). Never heard of a tiler being rained off! Can the multi tool cut tiles or is a combination of grinder and wet cutter the only solution?

Your thoughts please.....

 

[Bill]

Afternoon all.

I've been reading who uses a multi cutter on doors and architraves etc to get a tile to slide under, but do these cutters work on cutting tiles and has anyone any experience of this?

When I was having my drama the other week, trying to envelope a tile that was too big for my wet cutter (see how do I cut this? thread) the general consensus was to cut it with a grinder. Did it, neatish job, customer happy.

But what if its thrashing it down with rain outside, nowhere to get the grinder out (too much dust for inside). Never heard of a tiler being rained off! Can the multi tool cut tiles or is a combination of grinder and wet cutter the only solution?

Your thoughts please.....

Buy a pop up shelter.......... then you can cut outdoor or use 110v stuff and you can still cut outdoor or buy a decent battery grinder and you can still work outdoor

 

[p4ulo]

I'm not sure you could get a multi-tool to start up gently enough to get it in place nicely (does that make sense) also, because it oscillates back and forth, I think you'd be looking at some chippage at each end of the cut, whereas a grinder / wet wheel presents a continuous or at least a cutting blade that only spins in one direction....

 

[Ian]

I have a tailgate on my van, that's where I set up on a rainy day.

 

[lizzardtong]

Got tilgate as well. But good dust extractor will help with controlling dust

 

[Old Mod]

Bosch do a diamond half disc specifically aimed at cutting tiles,
I've not tried it or bought one, they're £49.99!

 

[ANDY F]

The grinder seems to be the best option. £50 a blade and no-one knows if it'll work! Not going to risk trying it. Still want a multi tool though

 

[ANDY F]

Does anyone use multi tool for removing old grout or broken tiles?

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Just a slight different direction to @ANDY F post, which are best, battery or cabled versions?

 

[Old Mod]

Does anyone use multi tool for removing old grout or broken tiles?

For grout yes, tiles .......not that I can ever remember.
Just old reliable SDS and hammer and bolster/chisel/screwdriver/wood chisel/ anything pointy/ bigger hammer/ or client!

Just a slight different direction to @ANDY F post, which are best, battery or cabled versions?

Both have their merits, battery can be convenient and quick.. Stops u having to find power but can be restrictive cos they tend to be bulkier.
Cabled have more grunt, are generally smaller, but finding power can be a pain and getting tangled in the cable when you're in a tight space is grounds for smashing it against a wall!

Hope this helps!!!

 

[ANDY F]

What should I invest my Christmas money in?

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

What should I invest my Christmas money in?

For grout yes, tiles .......not that I can ever remember.
Just old reliable SDS and hammer and bolster/chisel/screwdriver/wood chisel/ anything pointy/ bigger hammer/ or client!




Both have their merits, battery can be convenient and quick.. Stops u having to find power but can be restrictive cos they tend to be bulkier.
Cabled have more grunt, are generally smaller, but finding power can be a pain and getting tangled in the cable when you're in a tight space is grounds for smashing it against a wall!

Hope this helps!!!

I thought that, very convenient, saves not getting extension wires out etc, so think I'll plug for that.

What should I invest my Christmas money in?

you can spend it on my new multi tool and post it up if you like!!!!

 

[ANDY F]

What you buying?

 

[Old Mod]

What should I invest my Christmas money in?

Well depends on how much we're talking about,
and how many toys u need?

I have a full kit and some!! (I like toys, ask Ali or Gary! Haha)

But I could comfortable spend a grand on just a new laser and laser measure right this second.
And that's without the other 5grand on cutting equipement and associated tools!

It's all about priority for me, if I want something, I get that first!
If I NEED something, that probably comes last! Hahha

 

[ANDY F]

Got a few grout rake outs on the horizon so this is the baby. Love tools

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Bosch GOP18V-EC 18V 3.0Ah Li-Ion Brushless Cordless Multi-Cutter

this is what I was looking at, been poor and from up north I don't have the @3_fall coin.....

 

[ANDY F]

I am also up north and poor, so won't be having a cordless!

 

[Old Mod]

Got a few grout rake outs on the horizon so this is the baby. Love tools

Well I'd probably visit a decent tool stockist if I could and try a few for weight and balance. Try and gauge what would be comfortable to use.
Personally I've been Ryobi + one stuff lately.
Semi pro gear, dunno bout u but I use a multi tool maybe once a week, the impact drivers deliver 220nm which is way above anyone else's
The cordless grinder is dead handy for light work and doin mitre's
I find its good all round gear, and what's more the 4ah betteries are excellent and pretty much everything is priced at £60-£90
Which for the amount of use I give each individual piece is a bargain.
The impact driver is indestructible, and the multitool is very versatile.
But it's not the lightest of equipement in comparison to some!
But it's half the price.
I have 3 4ah batteries and it's more than enough for any task. Imo.

But then I have 3 multitool's several drills, 3 grinders, battery, mains and variable speed and so on and so on! Haha
I just like tools! (Machinery! Not to be confused with anything else!)

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Well I'd probably visit a decent tool stockist if I could and try a few for weight and balance. Try and gauge what would be comfortable to use.
Personally I've been Ryobi + one stuff lately.
Semi pro gear, dunno bout u but I use a multi tool maybe once a week, the impact drivers deliver 220nm which is way above anyone else's
The cordless grinder is dead handy for light work and doin mitre's
I find its good all round gear, and what's more the 4ah betteries are excellent and pretty much everything is priced at £60-£90
Which for the amount of use I give each individual piece is a bargain.
The impact driver is indestructible, and the multitool is very versatile.
But it's not the lightest of equipement in comparison to some!
But it's half the price.
I have 3 4ah batteries and it's more than enough for any task. Imo.

But then I have 3 multitool's several drills, 3 grinders, battery, mains and variable speed and so on and so on! Haha
I just like tools! (Machinery! Not to be confused with anything else!)

I've seen that gear in tradepont, didn't think it was worth a look. Might have to give it a second look... Not a Screw fix fan @3_fall?

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

I am also up north and poor, so won't be having a cordless!

what sort of budget are looking at @ANDY F ??

 

[Old Mod]

I've seen that gear in tradepont, didn't think it was worth a look. Might have to give it a second look... Not a Screw fix fan @3_fall?

Buying tools is a minefield!
Lots of variables to consider, price is always the first, scope of use, how often will I actually use it.
How long do I expect it to last for the money.
When I bought the Ryobi grinder recently I had low expectation for £60
But was on a job where I needed two grinders on the go at my workstation but kept finding I needed one where I was working too!
As it was no where near where my main workstation was and I got fed up with carting a grinder and transformer up to the bathroom I decided to get the cordless one to try, figured for £60 it was a educated gamble, and for me it paid off! So one upstairs in bathroom and two permanently set up at my workstation. One for cutting one for grinding, which meant just carrying tiles not equipement as well. Haha
If I was a joiner, the Ryobi may not cut it on a full time basis, well the impact driver would, so my choices may well be different.
At the end of the day, misused tools break, whether u spend £5-£500, so if u spend a fortune on something u use infrequently and it's just chucked in the motor till next time, whenever that maybe, it stands just as much chance of getting broken as anything else. Not that I or u intentionally misuse tools, but crap happens.
Spend your money wisely if it's in short supply, other opportunities will arise down the line.
But one thing I definitely do not do is borrow tools!!
U know it'll break when u look at it, and if I need it once, then I'll need it again, so I'll always go buy one. Might not make the best choice at the time but with experience u generally get it almost right.

Oh and to comment on your statement about Ryobi, keep your eye out in tradepoint/B&Q for deals on Ryobi, they don't come round often cos it's cheap anyway. What I will say, it's not the crap it used to be!

Sorry for the essay but not been posting much lately cos I been busy and I got carried away! Hahaha

 

[Old Mod]

Not a Screw fix fan @3_fall?

I'm a fan of whoever has the best deal at the time for exactly what I want!
I'm very fickle when it comes to buying tools, I have no loyalties! Haha
But I do find it helps to get to know your retailers when it comes to buying anything and not just order on line.
Call them, get to know at least one person, eventually u'll start getting better prices!
Except in chain stores!
Independents are the way to go.

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Well that's me tooled right up, well it will be when I win the 5k ryobi tool give away I've just entered online! Lol

 

[highlandtiler]

Does anyone use multi tool for removing old grout or broken tiles?

Hi Andy - Yes i have a Fein 350 multimaster and I use diamond blades from Saxton (cheaper). I have done a fair amount of regrouting jobs and even after 6 hours ( yes true) the Fein is easy to handle. I sometimes use it as well for tidying up cuts as it is better than a file and it makes short work of getting the grout out if you want to seperate a tile for lifting. Good for trimming battens, hardiebacker and other wooden stuff too of course.

 

[Ian]

If you're doing a fair amount or regrouting, it has to be a corded multi tool, even with 4 or 5 ah batteries, you'll still be using a few if you've got hours and hours of raking out to do. Cordless is a godsend at times but, I wouldn't want it as my only option. I have a 240v fein and it's an awesome piece of kit.

 

[ANDY F]

Temptation has got the better of me
......

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Temptation has got the better of me
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Which model is this then, Mr Shiny New Multi tool owner???

 

[ANDY F]

Dewalt DWE315SF. £100 at screwfix, along with a pack of blades (50 quid) and a carbide blade for grout removal (18). Just couldn't help myself

 

[Wishiwasatoptiler]

Dewalt DWE315SF. £100 at screwfix, along with a pack of blades (50 quid) and a carbide blade for grout removal (18). Just couldn't help myself

You did get excited.. money just burnt a hole in your pocket. Lol. Thought you were a poor northerner. Must just be me.

 

[ANDY F]

Christmas cash off the parents. The wifes parents feel sorry for me!