customers who smoke

[faithhealer]

Never had any problem with this apart from went to do a quote once for two chain smokers, sore throat for days . Just wondering do we have any rights regarding smoking in the 'workplace', even if it is their home

 

[DHTiling]

Good question..

 

[mikethetile]

in short yes

its your work environment so they are not permitted to smoke in it

they wwould have to go to a designated smoking area outside

 

[united]

Very very good question

I hate smokers.... ever since I quit

 

[Perry]

i would of thought they couldent smoke in your work place even if its in there house

 

[doug boardley]

I know that when mum was alive and needed care that she was supposed to not smoke due to carers welfare, but most of her carers were smokers too, so that rule got ignored!

 

[White Room]

It must be over 2 years since I worked in a house that they were smokers...........

I know that if some who is a non smoker gets into a car with smokers they must refrain until the journeys end

 

[kilty55]

your quite within your rights to bring this up with the customer,whether or not they take on board what your saying or take you on for the job for that matter is another thing lol


funny you brought this up as i did a job 2 weeks ago in a smokers home,,i was stinking like fagash lil when i left..im an ex smoker which makes the smell even more orrible

 

[Deleted member 9966]

i found this on the smokefreeengland website

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Is my home required to be smokefree?

No. The the smokefree law does not apply to private dwellings and private residential spaces, except for parts of dwellings used solely as a place of work by more than one person.
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I work from home, is it required to be smokefree then?

It depends. The law requires that any parts of a dwelling will be required to be smokefree if they are used solely as a place of work for:
i. more than one person who does not live in the dwelling,
ii. a person who does live at the dwelling and any person who does not, or
iii. any person whether they live at the dwelling or not, if people who do not live at the dwelling come to give or receive goods or services.
If you are unsure, you may wish to contact your local council for advice.

to me that reads, if you're having tradesmen enter your home to provide a service, you're obliged to have it smokefree whilst they are there completing the work

 

[faithhealer]

good answer liz

 

[mikethetile]

see told you

you can stop anyone smoking in your work environment

 

[Deleted member 9966]

and so you should Mike, if you're a non-smoker or a smoker. it's up to the individual whether they want to be subjected to it whilst they work, and the law is on their side in this matter. about the only time when the law is on the right side....

 

[CJ]

I'm a newbie Ex smoker (April this year) and it STILL gets my goat when everyone has a pop at smokers.

Its like smokers are lepers. I could go on about the tax side of it and all that stuff, but it used to wind me up before.......and it still does.

if you go and do a quote, and smell smoke in the house.............its up to you then if you do the quote or not.

Health & safety, Political correctness and all this kind of guff goes toooo far sometimes.

 

[Deleted member 9966]

I have very harsh views on smokers, overweight people, and people who generally do not do what they can to keep themselves healthy and expect the government/NHS to sort them out.

I believe people should be left to their own devices, however if they choose to smoke themselves to death, then they should be allowed to die without any medical intervention. I choose to live a healthy life, yet because of budgetary constraints on the NHS, I'd only be allowed one round of IVF on the NHS. And if that was unsuccessful, then tough, no more freebies and I would have to pay for it all myself.

Apologies if I upset anyone with my view, but I believe the system is unfair and penalises those who choose the healthy lifestyle.

 

[faithhealer]

woah there, I have never once asked anybody to put a cigarette out, as you say CJ if you don't like it don't do it. Went to a 'do' last week and kept popping outside for fresh air and all the smokers could talk about was that they had to come outside to smoke BUT they agreed with the law!

I'm a newbie Ex smoker (April this year) and it STILL gets my goat when everyone has a pop at smokers.

Its like smokers are lepers. I could go on about the tax side of it and all that stuff, but it used to wind me up before.......and it still does.

if you go and do a quote, and smell smoke in the house.............its up to you then if you do the quote or not.

Health & safety, Political correctness and all this kind of guff goes toooo far sometimes.

 

[mikethetile]

that raises the question as to wether ivf should be available on the nhs

not being able to concieve is not an illness nor is it life threatening

sometimes theres a medical reason that a women cant concieve and that should be treatable on the nhs but ivf shouldnt be paid for out of the national purse

 

[Deleted member 9966]

that raises the question as to wether ivf should be available on the nhs

not being able to concieve is not an illness nor is it life threatening

sometimes theres a medical reason that a women cant concieve and that should be treatable on the nhs but ivf shouldnt be paid for out of the national purse

that's a good point Mike. but with the population already ageing, and most people only having 1-2 children nowadays because of the "cost" the UK economy and population will suffer because there will be less younger generation people coming into the workforce to support the retirees. so maybe is a necessary evil?

 

[Ajax123]

Technically I guess you could ask your customers not to smoke in their own houise while you are working there but I would think you would find it difficult to enforce your "rights". I think it would be better to simply not do the job.

When I am talking to a customer and he strikes up a ciggy I will just tell him as I don't smoke I will come back when he's finished. Depends on his or her reaction to this as to whether I actually come back or not.

 

[mikethetile]

most smokers wontsmoke in front of non smokers

 

[mikethetile]

that's a good point Mike. but with the population already ageing, and most people only having 1-2 children nowadays because of the "cost" the UK economy and population will suffer because there will be less younger generation people coming into the workforce to support the retirees. so maybe is a necessary evil?

but if smokers die younger the state wont need so many people to pay for their pensions

 

[Deleted member 9966]

but if smokers die younger the state wont need so many people to pay for their pensions

alas not every smoker dies young tho. my Grandmother was 91 when she died and she'd been smoking since she was 16. it wasn't even a smoking related illness that killed her in the end. most intriguing. I guess we can't second guess anything in this life. Oh what fun the government must have when trying to figure all these things out.

 

[CJ]

I used to get wound up over people tutting and pulling faces/arm waving when I went outside for a smoke......and these where usually EX smokers, so they of all people should understand that smoking is an addiction. (as is drinking)

I know there are people who think that is cobblers.........and these quite often are people who have NEVER smoked, but until you have experienced the shakes/withdrawal symptoms, should think again when pulling that face.

I do understand where you are coming from Liz, and I would love to be as fit and Healthy as I used to be........as do most of us, but life styles change and come and go...........and a lot of us get these dirty, unhealthy habits. Smoking was mine.

As for the IVF stuff.......I do sympathise, but that is generally, like a lot of other things, down to the postcode lottery we ALL have to bear.

Please ALL you non/never have smokers............please do not blame everything on the smokers.

From an EX smoker.



Ps....smoke near me, and I'll kick ya shins in 😉

 

[Pebbs]

I have very harsh views on smokers, overweight people, and people who generally do not do what they can to keep themselves healthy and expect the government/NHS to sort them out.

I believe people should be left to their own devices, however if they choose to smoke themselves to death, then they should be allowed to die without any medical intervention. I choose to live a healthy life, yet because of budgetary constraints on the NHS, I'd only be allowed one round of IVF on the NHS. And if that was unsuccessful, then tough, no more freebies and I would have to pay for it all myself.

Apologies if I upset anyone with my view, but I believe the system is unfair and penalises those who choose the healthy lifestyle.

Liz you havent upset me with your views as stated above, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs however, I feel you have some double standards displayed in the above statement. You feel it totally unfair for the NHS to fund treatment for anyone who is a smoker or is overweight yet at the same time you feel it is unfair that anyone trying for a baby is only allowed one round of IVF on the NHS. It is all about choice, wanting to concieve is not a fundamental right to access free IVF, so its wrong to treat someone who has an addiction to smoking or over-eating, but its ok because women should be entitled to have free IVF. Sorry but no, you cant have one rule for one set of people with medical conditions and another for couples wanting children. You choose to smoke, you choose to over-eat, and in my book you choose to have children, I also believed couples were entitled to three courses of IVF not one as you stated. If at the end of three courses of this treatment then it goes over to being paid for, which is typically in the range of between £4000-£8000.

Lynn

 

[Deleted member 9966]

I'm an ex smoker too, and nothing gives me more pleasure than passive smoking or wanting to spark up when I'm out socialising. but I gave up for 2 reasons, 1 - my husband asked me to, and 2 - because I wanted to look better than my mum when I get to her age. she smoked until she was 50 and it's taken it's toll on her skin. i don't want wrinkles, creases or horrible looking skin/teeth. fairly selfish reasons but that's how i experienced the smoking life.

 

[mikethetile]

I was just playing devils advocate over the iva thing

I too get fed up of the moral high ground non smokers take over this healthy life style business

smokers should be left to die , its their own choice etc, we shouldnt have to pick up the bill for their illnesses

but when it something they want it should be available on the nhs

I hate double standards

 

[Deleted member 9966]

Lynn I want to thank you for your post, but I can't see a Thanks button :yikes:, so thank you. I appreciate everybody's input. We like debate and discussion on this forum

 

[DHTiling]

Ps....smoke near me, and I'll kick ya shins in

:lol:


Smoke near me and i'll chin ya..🙂

 

[DHTiling]

Lynn I want to thank you for your post, but I can't see a Thanks button :yikes:, so thank you. I appreciate everybody's input. We like debate and discussion on this forum

when a post is posted at the same time as another the thanks button doesn't show, simple refresh the page and bingo it is there..🙂

 

[mikethetile]

thanks buttons have gone Lynne so I cant thank you for your post

but I agree and you put it much better than I have

 

[faithhealer]

My friend was going for IVF and she was complaining that hubby was working nights. 'I'll drop you off', I offered then she explained what I might have to do in a little jar when I got there so hubby had to take time off Duh!

 

[DHTiling]

Here for me.. refresh the page folks..???