why i never charge a day rate unless ripping up a floor

[The D]

Surprised to hear this from you Deano.
Unless you are winding me up , I know you could adapt very easily but why should you if you have plenty of work in your normal comfort zone.
gary touched on the subject earlier .
I have never used a notch on stone or rectified porcelain floor .
i may not be right on how I bed tiles but I do know that I get right coverage .

I'm not winding you up at all m8 i have had my fingers burned with this type of stone as i think you know. At the end of the day i am a tiler not a stone mason give me a tile big or small and i will stick it to the wall or the floor. but this stone that is all thicknesses shapes and sizes is not my idea of fun so i am absolutely with you tilers should stick to tiling.

 

[jonnyc]

I'm not winding you up at all m8 i have had my fingers burned with this type of stone as i think you know. At the end of the day i am a tiler not a stone mason give me a tile big or small and i will stick it to the wall or the floor. but this stone that is all thicknesses shapes and sizes is not my idea of fun so i am absolutely with you tilers should stick to tiling.

Deano I really appreciate your comments .i think we understand each other now.

 

[Peter]

I have never used a notch on stone or rectified porcelain floor .
i may not be right on how I bed tiles but I do know that I get right coverage .

Interesting point. If you don't mind me asking, what's your method? I suppose with different thickness it's not in your interest to use a standard notch.

Do you pour a continuous bed and beat to the same level?

 

[Stef]

What does everyone do if they're a couple (less than a box) tiles short through a shop/customers measurements? Come back free of charge or add extra for havikg to come back?

Depends on the customer Peter, if you are on a good day with them then I would take the hit, if they are a bit of an arse then I would charge, every job is different in my eyes.

 

[Perry]

Johnny did we go to the same school ? When we started tiling lol or was because we started in the fired earth days.

 

[jonnyc]

Interesting point. If you don't mind me asking, what's your method? I suppose with different thickness it's not in your interest to use a standard notch.

Do you pour a continuous bed and beat to the same level?

peter

just lay down a bed however you like and then work the tile or stone in to it till you can see you havea full bed and level tile. usually tell by seeing the adhesive coming out of sides but you know from experience really.
ive had an adhesive rep round couple of times when had problems with floors cracking and we have taken tiles up for him. explained what we did and they had no problem how you bed tile as long as you get enough coverage

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Now I understand about Gary's post where many years ago stone masons were required and Tilers need not apply, but that works the other way as well, stone workers are not Tilers!
However those seperate trades have crossed over now and experienced Tilers should be able to fix all forms of tiling and thickness is not an issue. The only determining factor is the surface finish and if laid to tolerances laid down by British Standards then that's job done!
I accept that there are different skill sets with different materials but a 600x600 white polished porcelain is more of a challenge than a honed stone. Imo.

 

[charlie1]

peter

just lay down a bed however you like and then work the tile or stone in to it till you can see you havea full bed and level tile. usually tell by seeing the adhesive coming out of sides but you know from experience really.
ive had an adhesive rep round couple of times when had problems with floors cracking and we have taken tiles up for him. explained what we did and they had no problem how you bed tile as long as you get enough coverage

Why don't you use a notched trowel johnny? Don't you feel the ribs collapse enough for your stone?

 

[The D]

Now I understand about Gary's post where many years ago stone masons were required and Tilers need not apply, but that works the other way as well, stone workers are not Tilers!
However those seperate trades have crossed over now and experienced Tilers should be able to fix all forms of tiling and thickness is not an issue. The only determining factor is the surface finish and if laid to tolerances laid down by British Standards then that's job done!
I accept that there are different skill sets with different materials but a 600x600 white polished porcelain is more of a challenge than a honed stone. Imo.

mabe i have just lost mt bottle.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

mabe i have just lost mt bottle.

I doubt that - your JOTY entry / winner was a stone job but I bet you didn't check the thickness of every piece, you just fix them and it's the finished plane that is all your interested in.

 

[AliGage]

I doubt that - your JOTY entry / winner was a stone job but I bet you didn't check the thickness of every piece, you just fix them and it's the finished plane that is all your interested in.

Probably can't remember TJ, it only took him 20 minutes, with a coffee and smoke break


Just jesting Deano.

 

[The D]

I doubt that - your JOTY entry / winner was a stone job but I bet you didn't check the thickness of every piece, you just fix them and it's the finished plane that is all your interested in.

ok let me put it this way the tolerance for stone is 10% so if it is 20mm you have + or - 2mm tolerance that is 4mm or 3mm on a 15mm stone but to me that is the absolute outside limit a good quality stone should be well within that. when we start talking about 5 and 6 mm difference in thickness that is slab laying and not something i am interested in. i will leave that to the ones that can. Although it has been my experience that a lot of the ones that say they can actually can't. the ones that actually can i take my hat of to them but it is still something i am not prepared to do.

 

[Huddersfield Tiling]

Tile Master adhesives? What a load of crap!

 

[Huddersfield Tiling]

Tile Master adhesives? What a load of crap! Cheap rubbish.