May As Well Fess Up To A **** Up

[yahoo2u2]

I will do a search for the answers to save messing about, but I better fess up and tell you what I have done.

I am no tiler....no honestly....I am not....I can fix your computer no probs....but will have a go at anything.

My wife went away for a week so I booked a holiday and as a surprise decided to tile the hall and kitchen.

Went to B&Q
Got the tiles with advice and grout and adhesives

Now after laying the tiles are not sticking (some) and moving and the grout has started to come out.

I know know I should have used special flexi adhesive and flexi grout...

Too bloody late.

I am back in work on Monday and they are home on Tuesday, so I suppose ear ache and those little chats that only a wife can do so well.

I suppose I will have to raise them all clean and refix with the correct bloody stuff.

Oh well live and earn, and never too old to learn I suppose.

 

[Tile Shop]

What surface did you tile onto?

 

[yahoo2u2]

The hall was concrete and the kitchen over old stone tiles...dont shout 🙂

 

[mma]

Don't ask for advice from B&Q staff about tiling. Should have come on here first and asked questions!!

 

[yahoo2u2]

I know I know, but I have only just found this place or I would have.....but its done now. 🙁

 

[yahoo2u2]

But I gather I need flexi grout and flexi adhesives to fit them correctly....so I am a bit stuffed now.

 

[Tile Shop]

There might be some more prep needed before going on directly with the flexi adhesive so best to double check.

where have the tiles lifted? over the concrete or over the old stone tiles? (If you could tell us what the old stone tiles are that may help)
how long has the concrete been down?
Was any form of primer used for any of it?
what preparation did you do to the old stoner tiles? (cleaning, roughing up etc)

 

[yahoo2u2]

Ok better ask.

Can I do it a few tiles at a time or do I need to take the lot up in one go.
If I do the hall first all in one go like this.
Clean the old adhesive and grout out (some are fixed well, but hey...
Then reset
Then do the grouting, if all OK move into the kitchen?
What would be the best adhesive/grout for a concrete floor in hall (its a black substance
What would be the best adhesive/grout for a concrete floor in kitchen as its old tiles and they seem to be concreted in....

thanks for any help...I am at my wits end now awaiting the advice and the wife with her killer comments 🙂

 

[yahoo2u2]

OK thanks for the reply.
where have the tiles lifted? over the concrete or over the old stone tiles? (If you could tell us what the old stone tiles are that may help) Both
how long has the concrete been down? Flippin ek, probably since built, but it has black stuff on it where the old tiles had been. I did pva it though and it was clean.
what preparation did you do to the old stoner tiles? (cleaning, roughing up etc)
The tiles were already rough ish as they are very old so 40 years I suspect.

I would pay now for someone to sort it now I think, its about 3m x 10m all in all, how much do you think this would be?

Sorry if these are dumb, questions, but they are not dumb to me

 

[Andy Allen]

So many things wrong I don't know where to start ...lol
Pva ..shouldn't have used that.
Black stuff.....could be old bitumen, which needs prepping correctly.

Where abouts are you......someone on here might be local.
(Please don't say Gloucester )...lol

 

[yahoo2u2]

Thanks Andy, this made me LOL
(Please don't say Gloucester )...lol

I am in Lancashire near Rossendale, I know I know, I made a big big **** up all round it seems.

May just get sillicone and have done with it 🙂

 

[Old Mod]

Can u upload some picture please?
If u want to stand any chance of putting it half right before u know who comes home, we'll need evidence to bury u later, sorry I mean help u out! 🙄
Some of the area as a whole, some closer up of the floor beneath to see if we can determine what it actually is.
And it's useful to show the damaged areas along side what's still stuck down.
Cheers

 

[yahoo2u2]

OK will have a go now.

 

[yahoo2u2]

OK here goes the one with the pipe is the hallway floor

[/IMG] The one with the dog is the tiles before.

 

[Italy]

you use Ecoprimgrip MAPEI in U.K.?
in italy very

 

[Andy Allen]

Is that your socks or slippers?...lol

How you getting over the different levels from the kitchen and hall?

TBH I would of ripped up the old tiles, leveled the floor through and then tiled...

Or in your case .....got a tiler in !!!!

Fair play for having a go......but I wouldn't know where to start fixing a laptop..🙂

 

[yahoo2u2]

No its my jimjams over my socks PMSL.
May just get some Silicon and do it that way 🙂

 

[yahoo2u2]

How you getting over the different levels from the kitchen and hall?
Not we have a door stop wood thing, so that helps

 

[Andy Allen]

Silicon ?
That won't stick them down...lol
Seriously. ....think your going to have to take the beating off the wife and get a tiler in...lol

 

[yahoo2u2]

I know it was a joke....sorta 🙂
I need a flexi adhesive and flexi grout I think....what do you say would do the job

 

[Italy]

I'm sorry @yahoo, but need to a good head on his shoulders with tiler 🙂

 

[yahoo2u2]

Listen its only a floor, I aint givin head to fix that 🙂

good head on his shoulders with tiler

 

[Italy]

Listen its only a floor, I aint givin head to fix that 🙂

you, have heads on his shoulders, because you've tried 🙂

 

[Old Mod]

It's very difficult to see anything from those images to be honest.
What floor covering was in the hall before u started, vinyl tiles?

 

[yahoo2u2]

LOL its a joke, Cheers buddy

Do you guys think this will be good
Mapei Mapeker Rapid Set Flex Tile Adhesive White 20kg | Wickes.co.uk

or this, good reviews
Wickes Flexible Rapid Set Tile Adhesive 20kg | Wickes.co.uk

Please help guys if you can

 

[Old Mod]

You need to sort your prep out before worrying about adhesive haha
Otherwise it'll just happen again!

 

[yahoo2u2]

Well all I can do now is remove the old stuff and refit these I thnk, whats sort of prep do you think I need to do....

What about lifting up all the tiles and then this
Bostik Cempolatex Floor Levelling Compound 25kg | Wickes.co.uk

then use the other stuff I just highlighted

 

[Italy]

Well all I can do now is remove the old stuff and refit these I thnk, whats sort of prep do you think I need to do....

What about lifting up all the tiles and then this
Bostik Cempolatex Floor Levelling Compound 25kg | Wickes.co.uk

then use the other stuff I just highlighted

if you do not see the work you can not understand, find a good tiler

 

[yahoo2u2]

wow thats a bit harsh.
I see what you are saying. But it aint a palace, I just wanted it to be functional.

 

[Italy]

I am sorry but I am left speechless .......... take away everything and leave it as it was before ........ is the solution, otherwise your wife ...... caput 🙂

 

[Old Mod]

You're not giving enough information I'm afraid, you won't get the correct advice if u don't.
That's why you're being advised to find someone who can take a look at it for you.
The images are not as helpful as they could be.
The PVA that u have used needs to be removed before you do anything.
Sanded off concrete, washed off tiles if poss if they're non porous.
If that is what's known as 'black' adhesive on the concrete floor u need to use product like Mapei Eco prime like has been suggested or Tilemastermaster Prime and grip. These are pre mixed slurry primers. Or u make your own with 1-1 tiling SBR and water with 30% tile adhesive, by weight.
Do you now see how complex this could be?
I'm afraid it's not just a case of slapping them down with flexi adhesive.
Sorry if this is blunt, but if u do seriously want to make headway before Tuesday this is what u are faced with.