good diamond blades

[Spud]

I hope this is not too much of an advert for the supplier but I must say I am very impressed with the quailty and longevity of my diamond blades , they are really decent and cut well with no chipping and I think Alan and his guys at ATS deserve a pat on the back for it , I run these porcelain blades on all my grinders and so do the guys that work for me and to date we havent had a single problem with them

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[Stef]

Best quality blades you will buy.
Try their cores aswell, the dry cores are the dogs..

 

[Spud]

Best quality blades you will buy.
Try their cores aswell, the dry cores are the dogs..

I love the m14 dry cores Stef like you say they are just mustard

 

[Stef]

I love the m14 dry cores Stef like you say they are just mustard

I tested the new dry cores for Alan & my hand gave up before the cores did.. [emoji27]

 

[gamma38]

I'm a convert as well, won't go anywhere else. Great products, great guys.

 

[Chalker]

Can't fault them, have just ordered a new 300mm blade from them.
Allan is sending me a couple to test in my track saw for cutting mistral board ( like corian)
going to try them on tiles too

 

[White Room]

I'll stick with Ats for blades...

 

[Spud]

Can't fault them, have just ordered a new 300mm blade from them.
Allan is sending me a couple to test in my track saw for cutting mistral board ( like corian)
going to try them on tiles too

which track saw do you have ? I bought the marcrist stc 185 a couple of weeks ago

 

[Chalker]

It's a makita track saw ( made for joinery) I use it for cutting mistral solid surface. It's good for work tops, niches etc. http://www.karonia.com/installation.html

will be using it dry though!

 

[Spud]

It's a makita track saw ( made for joinery) I use it for cutting mistral solid surface. It's good for work tops, niches etc. http://www.karonia.com/installation.html

will be using it dry though!

just watched all the videos it looks really good stuff a nice nice alternative to stone and quartz

 

[Concrete guy]

We're feeling the love here fella's, thanks.

 

[Concrete guy]

Can't fault them, have just ordered a new 300mm blade from them.
Allan is sending me a couple to test in my track saw for cutting mistral board ( like corian)
going to try them on tiles too

We developed a couple of blades in conjunction with Bushboard for their M Stone Quartz and Max-Top and both companies customers.

These are modified stone and porcelain blades to fit plunge saws with a 20mm centre bore.

We know these cut quartz dry with carpentry tools as we've already sold over 1000 units with no issues.

We keep being asked if these will cut solid surface, the answer is I don't know. I have a feeling there's too high a resin content in solid surface for diamond blades to be efficient but there's nothing like running a test to find out.

So I'm interested to see what Paul comes up with.

 

[trustiling]

How do the ATS m14 dry corers fair on porcelain, for example how many holes and should you still sponge them?
Got a load off diatech last year and the diamond separated after only a handful of holes on them all.

 

[Qwerty]

There are a few threads on the ATS dry cores.......
http://www.tilersforums.com/143-tiling-tool-reviews/70653-ats-diamond-tools-dry-core-drills.html

And the new vacuum brazed ones Stef & I tested.....
http://www.tilersforums.com/28-tiling-tools/74092-new-ats-diamond-tools-vacuum-dry.html

 

[trustiling]

Invalid link mate

 

[Qwerty]

Invalid link mate

You viewing in Tapatalk? Comes up invalid link there, but works in web browser

 

[Stef]

Dry cores tested on grade 5 porcs.


Got 32 holes in the 12mm dry core, one hole after the other, no stopping & still life left in it.

 

[peteablard]

Can't fault them, just as good if not better than some blades I've paid 4 times the price for.

 

[trustiling]

Just received from ATS

2 x 18mm, 2 x 35mm M14 dry corers

4 x 6mm waxed drill bits

And a porcelain turbo blade 115mm

The blade is awesome, straight cut and no chipping on the window checks.

18mm for fast fix shower fittings to go round 15mm copper, well impressed.

And the 35mm for radiator, hot/cold supply pipes and basin waste, finished off with a chrome plastic collar, all holes quick and clean through Hillock 600 x 300 porcelain from CTD.

Will report on the drilling tomorrow with the 6mm.

Would of rather had the 6mm M14 but mixed reports on longevity.

 

[Qwerty]

I'm not at all surprised you are impressed. Don't forget to share some pics if you get a chance [emoji106]

 

[Concrete guy]

Just received from ATS

2 x 18mm, 2 x 35mm M14 dry corers

4 x 6mm waxed drill bits

And a porcelain turbo blade 115mm

The blade is awesome, straight cut and no chipping on the window checks.

18mm for fast fix shower fittings to go round 15mm copper, well impressed.

And the 35mm for radiator, hot/cold supply pipes and basin waste, finished off with a chrome plastic collar, all holes quick and clean through Hillock 600 x 300 porcelain from CTD.

Will report on the drilling tomorrow with the 6mm.

Would of rather had the 6mm M14 but mixed reports on longevity.

We brought the wax filled bits in specifically to cover the smaller M14 drills.

The M14 at 6mm we've found hit or miss in porcelain only and seems to be completely user dependent. We're more confident with the wax filled bits for the smaller holes.

115mm Turbo Flange Porcelain Blades are now out of stock but we have some in production we we hope to see within a couple of weeks.

 

[trustiling]

Not really looking forward to drilling the 6mm holes as all my battery guns have seen better days and the 240v is SDS and with the chuck converter I'm nearly outside the room with the total length of it or need someone to hold a guide, you'll need to get the lab guys working overtime to come up with a perfect m14 [emoji12]

 

[trustiling]

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So this was us drilling with the waxed 6mm

3 minutes for this hole and over 5 for the next, I didn't try another with this bit.

The next bit was about 1.30 for the first hole then it didn't seem to go anywhere on the second hole.

Hikes done with XRP battery gun and 240v drill both on highest speed

I found it really awkward to try and hold a plywood guide and generally the sucker guides are unpredictable, fall off the wall and could cause damage so ended up piloting them with Bosch masonry bit (which goes through same tile in 1.30)

Overall fairly disappointed as I was expecting these to make life easier which is far from the case

On average between 15-20 holes fitting out a bathroom so even if it meant 2 or 3 M14 grinder 6mm for a bathroom I don't see £25-40 a job being a problem as I can hold and drill accurately with the grinder without a guide by myself instead of someone holding a guide for me or having to ware money on masonry bits to pilot first.

 

[Concrete guy]

Hikes done with XRP battery gun and 240v drill both on highest speed

There's your problem.

The DeWalt XRP is at 2000rpm at full chat, not sure what speed your 240v drill operates at without the spec.

The wax filled bits are designed for drilling at 500-1200 rpm and you can't lean on them like you're drilling with a masonry bit.

The part of your video where all the smoke appeared, that was the point at which you burnt all the diamond off the tip with a combination of too much speed and too much pressure. Take it slow, let the diamond do the work and these will happily drill loads of holes and reasonably quickly.

The following is the spec on our website for these bits:-

Wax filled vacuum brazed dry porcelain drill bits.
The Hex shaft makes these perfect for use in a battery drill driver.
Can comfortably drill 20 or more holes in the hardest grade 5 porcelain.
Allow the drill and the rotation to cut the hole, don't lean on these bits like you would a masonry drill.
Never use the hammer action it will destroy the diamond tip. Use at around 500 - 1200rpm.
Available in 6mm, 7mm & 8mm the most common problem sizes. We tested larger sizes but found the cores got stuck in the wax. If you need to drill larger holes dry, see our M14 Vacuum Brazed bits which are available up to 65mm diameter.

 

[trustiling]

When I spoke to your colleague on the phone last Wednesday about how to use them use he was quite specific in telling me the faster the better as the wax would melt more when I asked what speed to drill at....

 

[Concrete guy]

When I spoke to your colleague on the phone last Wednesday about how to use them use he was quite specific in telling me the faster the better as the wax would melt more when I asked what speed to drill at....

The M14 bits are designed for 11,000rpm, the faster the better.

The wax filled bits are slow speed.

 

[trustiling]

here is the bit after use as I've worked with all sorts of types of these kind of bits and seen the diamond leave the tip, this doesn't look like that has happened?

 

[trustiling]

I tried to order the m14 bits and was advised against!! So when I called to find out why I then enquired as what to do with the waxed bits and was told to drill fast

 

[Concrete guy]

here is the bit after use as I've worked with all sorts of types of these kind of bits and seen the diamond leave the tip, this doesn't look like that has happened?

Difficult to see as the image is out of focus.

 

[Concrete guy]

I tried to order the m14 bits and was advised against!! So when I called to find out why I then enquired as what to do with the waxed bits and was told to drill fast

Why don't we send you a couple of new ones so you can try them at the correct speed?

 

[trustiling]

Thanks for that although I ordered 4 and still have one unused, I'll be finishing off the bathroom tomo, accessories, Silicon, new door etc. so will let you know how that turns out. Just wish I had the correct information first time round!
That aside, I really would prefer the m14 bits, can you not recommend any size be it, 6/7/8mm that will get me through and I will source suitable plugs/screws?