Decoupling Blah blah blah

[Simon Dale]

Ditra mat. What do people think ? Its been around a long time. Some of you were not even tiling
when it came out. Is it better than the rest? Is it a good price? Is it any good ?I have put this on the other page

 

[J Sid]

I like the color better then other makes

 

[Blunt Tool]

I’ve used the Ditra heat package a couple of times now, think it’s the best package out there imo

 

[One Day]

I have total confidence in Ditra. Not so much with others that I know have had problems in the past.
I have seen test videos which show just how much "give" there is in Ditra, and yet the tile/stone remains locked into the dovetails.
So for me, it's always the best option.
It's much more than a crack-mat, and I am yet to be convinced that unbonded mats (like BAL's new/old offering) are the best solution.

 

[WetSaw]

I've fitted Ditra heat a few times and it's good and easy. Don't try lifting it the day after you've laid it and think "it's not stuck!" , leave it to set properly and it's fine.

 

[Dumbo]

I have used ditra in the past . I like it but it's expensive . I use dural ci matting purchased direct from dural , you don't need to spend thousands with them to open an account . They also do the heat carrier mat on its own so you can use whatever cable you like .

 

[Waluigi]

German gear is usually the industry standard.

 

[Simon Dale]

I have used ditra in the past . I like it but it's expensive . I use dural ci matting purchased direct from dural , you don't need to spend thousands with them to open an account . They also do the heat carrier mat on its own so you can use whatever cable you like .

I called them once opened an account and the price was really good

 

[Dumbo]

I called them once opened an account and the price was really good

I like the fact I can choose what ufh I use with their heat carrier mat

 

[Dumbo]

I have used ditra in the past . I like it but it's expensive . I use dural ci matting purchased direct from dural , you don't need to spend thousands with them to open an account . They also do the heat carrier mat on its own so you can use whatever cable you like .

@callatiler I am i missing something or am I funnier than I realise

 

[Blunt Tool]

@callatiler I am i missing something or am I funnier than I realise

Big thumbs

 

[Bill]

German gear is usually the industry standard.

Like their emissions unit.........

 

[Qwerty]

I have to say its nearly always my decoupling membrane of choice. I have yet to see or hear of a failure where @Schlüter-Systems Ltd ditra has been fitted correctly

 

[Bill]

I have to say its nearly always my decoupling membrane of choice. I have yet to see or hear of a failure where @Schlüter-Systems Ltd ditra has been fitted correctly

I think that will be the case for them all - only time i have heard of failures in other products is when the Dural mat was manufactured wrong.

 

[Qwerty]

I think that will be the case for them all - only time i have heard of failures in other products is when the Dural mat was manufactured wrong.

Search the forum, other groups and the internet and you will find other membranes have far more user issues/ gripes than Schluter. It out performs the competition with ease. I begrudgingly use a thin membrane if height is an issue.

 

[hmtiling]

If vapour management isn't required then tilemasters mat is excellent imo. I've not used another mat which gives me as much faith in performance.

 

[Old Mod]

I have to say its nearly always my decoupling membrane of choice. I have yet to see or hear of a failure where @Schlüter-Systems Ltd ditra has been fitted correctly

What constitutes a failure Geoff?

 

[Old Mod]

If vapour management isn't required then tilemasters mat is excellent imo. I've not used another mat which gives me as much faith in performance.

Agreed Harry, it’s definitely the best antifracture matting on the market.

 

[Old Mod]

Ditra mat. What do people think ? Its been around a long time. Some of you were not even tiling
when it came out. Is it better than the rest? Is it a good price? Is it any good ?I have put this on the other page

Why the question Simon?

 

[One Day]

I visited dural recently and they were brilliant. Acknowledged the issues early on but looking at the stuff now, as well as the quality of their bespoke manufacturing and service, I am starting to use them a lot more.

 

[Dumbo]

Why the question Simon?

You're getting good at this political stuff answering a question with a question

 

[Qwerty]

What constitutes a failure Geoff?

Failure to perform its purpose- the role it was designed, produced and marketed to perform.

 

[Old Mod]

Failure to perform its purpose- the role it was designed, produced and marketed to perform.

I wasn’t trying to be clever Geoff, it was a serious question.
How would you define a failure with Ditra?

 

[Bill]

Failure to perform its purpose- the role it was designed, produced and marketed to perform.

but is that down to fixer error or the mat?

I suspect no tiler will admit they didn't follow instructions.

 

[Qwerty]

I wasn’t trying to be clever Geoff, it was a serious question.
How would you define a failure with Ditra?

Substrate lateral movement transferring through the ditra and causing tiles to crack, build up of vapour below the ditra. Basically anything that is the opposite of what ditra is capable of achieving.

but is that down to fixer error or the mat?

I suspect no tiler will admit they didn't follow instructions.

Then its down to the mat

 

[Old Mod]

Substrate lateral movement transferring through the ditra and causing tiles to crack, build up of vapour below the ditra. Basically anything that is the opposite of what ditra is capable of achieving.




Then its down to the mat

But that’s where I’m going with my question.
Unless the mat physically breaks down, how do you prove it’s the mat?

 

[Qwerty]

I guess only the manufacturers can answer that question

 

[Simon Dale]

Just

Why the question Simon?

building up to x something 😀

 

[widler]

I’ve lifted tiles off ditra/Dural and imo they come up too easy off the plastic (fully bedded and back buttered and licked by the customers cat)
Try lifting one off tm, it’s stuck right good, and imo it needs to be stuck right good and not like it is to the plastic.
Tm is the dogs danglies

 

[Dumbo]

Just

building up to x something 😀

Build it then

 

[J Sid]

I’ve lifted tiles off ditra/Dural and imo they come up too easy off the plastic (fully bedded and back buttered and licked by the customers cat)
Try lifting one off tm, it’s stuck right good, and imo it needs to be stuck right good and not like it is to the plastic.
Tm is the dogs danglies

it's not meant to stick the the mat, if it's stuck it isn't working as an uncoupling membrane