Day work meterage

[Joseph Kover]

Oh boi 🙂
In England this question make not much sense unfortunately.
Two options really, you either drop the quality for the sake of progress or you not working as pay for progress. Sorry, but both doesn't work. You can pull off acceptable quality and double your progress but in my opinion it doesn't worth on the long run. The longer you have to do you get used to not aim for better quality work. Also you won't be able to raise price and get better money end of the day. In the last 5 years in London people rather pay littlebit more for quality work and avoid cheap job. Which is great result and its really a progress in construction buisiness which kick out the cowboy category finally

On the side note
If you do a 25msq bathroom for private customers, they not necessarily appreciate the fact as you done in a day as they question that you not rush their home and do bad job and get out quickly.
On the construction site they like to pay daily rate and squeeze out msq and do not care how you pull it off

Question to the progressive folks here:
How you do preparation including if you do a 20msq bathroom in a day?
Fixing wall, fixing floor, waterproofing etc?
3cm off walls, big curve etc, raising floor grout same day? No way.

 

[Kevbos]

This is exactly why I asked question .I have been tiling 20 years and think I am quite good at tiling .if I ask for 35 to 40 pounds a metre to supply adhesive and grout and tile .customers are usually fine until they see how quick I can tile .then it breaks their hearts .but am I not allowed to be good at my job .with years of learning best ways and methods .

 

[Joseph Kover]

This is exactly why I asked question .I have been tiling 20 years and think I am quite good at tiling .if I ask for 35 to 40 pounds a metre to supply adhesive and grout and tile .customers are usually fine until they see how quick I can tile .then it breaks their hearts .but am I not allowed to be good at my job .with years of learning best ways and methods .

I don't know mate, It depends what you re working on, and what quality you represent. I don't think you can really calculate average for all cases.
I can do 30msq floor no problem but won't rush to finish a day. I rather still would do in 2 or even 3, I am still at my money.taking time on prep well worth it. I am responsible guy, and want to sleep well, no tiles falling on anyone head while sitting in the bath 🙂

 

[Kevbos]

I do work alot of tilers won't touch or can do .I find asking what each customer wants and can afford is best way to approach each job .

 

[Kyle Knowles]

I do work alot of tilers won't touch or can do .I find asking what each customer wants and can afford is best way to approach each job .

I see in ur profile pic u have a original style floor I'd love to do one of them but I've never had the chance and also I would need a mentor to teach me before I attempted to take one on on alone

 

[Kevbos]

Lol not original style .you would see lips and curved tiles if I tiled their product

 

[Joseph Kover]

Everyone works by their own preferences and working method. This is why these type of questions has as many preferred answer as many commenter.

 

[Kevbos]

Victorian tiling is hard but isn't if your patient and thorough. The prep is alot of the work .get floors flat perfectly before tiling

 

[Joseph Kover]

Victorian tiling is hard but isn't if your patient and thorough. The prep is alot of the work .get floors flat perfectly before tiling

Exactly, this is what I meant. You have to calculate the preps, but it takes time so one day clean tiling is not a preference for msq/day you see.

 

[Kevbos]

From my experience .original style are above them selves on their product .victorian tiles should be perfectly flat and square .theirs are not

 

[Joseph Kover]

From my experience .original style are above them selves on their product .victorian tiles should be perfectly flat and square .theirs are not

Yes much of them bended

 

[Kyle Knowles]

Who make the best victorian tiles ?

 

[Kevbos]

I'm not allowed to attack or slander their products .but they are far from original style victorian tiles .and also very unhelpful as a company .only in my previous experience .can I say that .

 

[Ian]

Fair bit of pricing in this thread and everyone who's commented is in the arms, so I've moved it over.

 

[dynamictiling]

There is so many variable answers that I could answer this vague question with. tiling with 6x6 white is going to be faster than tiling with 600x600 porcelain But that is pending what your tiling. for example tiling a 3 metre kitchen splashback with 8 sockets and metal trim is going to take far longer than tiling a square room minimum cuts with 600's.

As far as I can see from what I have read. If I quote a customer a fixed price, that is it set in stone. usually with my estimates I am not far off of my timescales, i.e if I say two days, it is two days, so on and so forth. I very rarely get arguments over price(s) after starting a job but if I do I remind them that we agreed a set quote. If said two day job had taken four days I would still charge them the same price, as that is what we had agreed. The only exception to that rule is if they add on other work, more tiling, plastering, plumbing etc.

ultimately sometimes we get it right, sometimes we get it wrong but the pendulum swings both ways. I have seen myself on "simple" jobs that have turned into living nightmares and in the same instances I have seen myself start "nightmares" that have ended up into fairy tale besting jobs ever.

Tiling is like a box of chocolates..... haha

 

[widler]

I think the easy answer has already been said .
Is 5m2 ok to do day in day out , the answer is no .extreamly simple really 😉

 

[Kevbos]

If I so loose victorian tiles half a metre is a good amount sometimes lol.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I think the easy answer has already been said .
Is 5m2 ok to do day in day out , the answer is no .extreamly simple really 😉

What no arguments!
Somethings up. I used a Sigma for 1 cut yesterday, I'll have to give my review.

 

[Just Rizzle]

sent my son on a job was piecing together a mosaic of a peacock by the jordanian mosaic company
i asked him how he got on he said done about 6 inches in 8 hours graft
i said as much as that the previous day i had a go did only 4 inches
the tools we were using were eyebrow tweezers we were stitchin the feathers of the peacock and some of the tiles were 1mm by 10mm allinall we were on the job for over 4 weeks on a day rate of 10 mtres of tiling a day
payed up with out a bat of any eye

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

I've never worked comercial I've always thought of it as a completely different job to domestic stuff biggest floor I've ever done was 100M 600 x 600 took me 10 days on my own which feels pretty embarrassing if bad boy stef is knocking out 40 a day lol

I'd say that sounds about right Kyle for a professional finish.......40m2 per day, never heard of that one in 18 yrs unless a 2 man job then yes possibly .....

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

9-13 sqm a day if you want to make good days money.Today finished bathroom 500x 200 ceramic tiles 23 sqm,started at 8 o'clock and finished at 3 o'clock.

Straight walls then & perfectly flat?

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

I think the easy answer has already been said .
Is 5m2 ok to do day in day out , the answer is no .extreamly simple really 😉

I think it all depends on the state of the walls, tiles you're working with......

 

[widler]

No offence MW, but if you are turning out 5m2 day in day out you want to give up and stack shelves 😉
Like has been said, probably about 2million 500 hundred of 50 bloody times
"5METRE SQUARE IS FINE NOW AND AGAIN, BUT 5M SQAURE ,DAY IN DAY OUT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, IT IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE , ITS LIKE A JOINER HANGING ONE DOOR, A PLUMBER HANGING ONE RAD, A PLASTERER STICKING ON ONE BOARD, A BRICKY LAYING 3 BRICK OR A ELECTRICIAN SWEEPING UP, OK the last ain't ever gonna happen, ITS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE 😡😡😡😡

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Wilder needs a holiday - back 4 weeks and he's onto capitals!!

 

[Italy]

5 square meters, I made them when I had a broken arm. (Daily average) 😉

 

[peteablard]

I'd say that sounds about right Kyle for a professional finish.......40m2 per day, never heard of that one in 18 yrs unless a 2 man job then yes possibly .....

Seen it done many times

 

[Andy Allen]

If a tilers doing 5m2 a day put him on a price per m2.......you will soon see an increase in work...🙂

 

[MW Smith Ceramics]

No offence MW, but if you are turning out 5m2 day in day out you want to give up and stack shelves 😉
Like has been said, probably about 2million 500 hundred of 50 bloody times
"5METRE SQUARE IS FINE NOW AND AGAIN, BUT 5M SQAURE ,DAY IN DAY OUT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE, IT IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE , ITS LIKE A JOINER HANGING ONE DOOR, A PLUMBER HANGING ONE RAD, A PLASTERER STICKING ON ONE BOARD, A BRICKY LAYING 3 BRICK OR A ELECTRICIAN SWEEPING UP, OK the last ain't ever gonna happen, ITS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE 😡😡😡😡

Crikey widler !......calm down!.....my post was meant as how many metres a day ( not 5 metres a day ) depends on the state of the walls or floors your tiling on.....my mistake there no need to bite my head off !!!......and yes I agree if any tiler is knocking out 5 metres per day then a career change would be about the only option......& by the way I voted no it's not enough........hope you,ve calmed down now any way

 

[Tile Shop]

Outsiders point of view/opinion, incoming. It may upset a few people. But I don't really care. what are you gonna do? hunt me down? Its just that seeing other peoples arrogance towards the OP has seriously wound me up a bit. Especially as this is a trade i'm wanting to go into. If its a job thats going to turn me into as much of an arsehole as some of these posters, I'd rather not bother. Give the guy a break.

I don't think its down to one tiler to decide what is acceptable to another. Each to their own. What works for you? What are you charging the customer, per day or per metre? whats your level of experience? what training did you have?

All irrelevant....... one question dictates it all..... can you do a job that a customer is happy with and is willing to pay your rates?

Is the customer aware that you will be slower than the next guy, but only because you take the extra time to make sure its spot on and 100% perfect?

I now await the barrage of people saying "I can do 40 a day and still get it perfect".....

You can have my reply before you even say it.... "really??? Thats amazing. You have won your prestigious bragging rights. Your boast has been heard loud and clear. Hope you're happy that you've made other people feel completely inadequate. Your willy is obviously bigger than everyone else's and maybe thats why you have to wear your red underpants on the outside of your trousers. Maybe you should be the only tiler on the planet cuz you're the only one capable of doing it. Get on with your own job and leave others to do theirs."

Its not a competition. Its not a race. The customer has to live with it for a long time. they would rather it be right than rushed. As long as you are honest with the customer about how you work, its for no-one else to judge.

I'm practising to become a tiler. To start with I'm going to be slow. If I was to go on my first job and only do 5m2, would you still tell me I should be stacking shelves? or would you give me the benefit of the doubt because all I wanna do is get it right and get paid?

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Paul - this is a forum - everyone can and should be able to express an opinion, dignified or not.
You will never agree with everyone and you should take whatever information you want and a pinch of the preverbial with the rest.
You are not a professional tiler and as such you would receive the courtesy and help to achieve a standard of finish that you would be happy with.
However a professional tiler asking if 5 sq mts a day is acceptable will allow a difference of opinions as so noted.
Even as an apprentice I wasn't given any respect from any trade until a standard or quantity off work was achieved and I'd never 'practice' on any job as a professional.

 

[Italy]

Paul - this is a forum - everyone can and should be able to express an opinion, dignified or not.
You will never agree with everyone and you should take whatever information you want and a pinch of the preverbial with the rest.
You are not a professional tiler and as such you would receive the courtesy and help to achieve a standard of finish that you would be happy with.
However a professional tiler asking if 5 sq mts a day is acceptable will allow a difference of opinions as so noted.
Even as an apprentice I wasn't given any respect from any trade until a standard or quantity off work was achieved and I'd never 'practice' on any job as a professional.

abemus pope 😉 ahah