50m floor

[Flintstone]

How many m2 a day do you think you can lay of 60x60 porc on a perfectly flat warehouse floor? It's for a super car show room and he needs an area to photograph his cars!

 

[hmtiling]

If perfectly flat, and perfectly flat is never the case unless pumped Imo, then 2 days work. Having said that there's no way on earth I'd be doing it on day rate.

 

[Flintstone]

I know what your saying, it's for a chap I do some jobs for on a day rate basis, grr

 

[widler]

50 m2 , no
Nice flat floor , price £1500, so take 6 days 😉

 

[LM]

1 day

 

[hmtiling]

I know what your saying, it's for a chap I do some jobs for on a day rate basis, grr

If you can only get day rate then take a labourer and make on him

 

[hmtiling]

1 day

On your own Lee?

 

[One Day]

3 days but I would charge £ 1250.00 and promise a perfect job.
If the floor actually was super-flat I might chuck in the materials foc.

 

[Spare Tool]

" Even I" wouldn't be on dayrate for that one 😉 id be in at £25 pm plus mats, so same price as Craig, I'd book a working week (5 days) out for it though.

 

[Spare Tool]

1 day

Get away with ya 🙂

 

[Andy Allen]

1 hour...😛

 

[Flintstone]

It's a funny one as I only do work for him on a slightly reduced day rate, often small jobs kitchens etc which I use to fill in gaps in the schedule so I can't suddenly ask for more on this one particular job!

 

[One Day]

It's a funny one as I only do work for him on a slightly reduced day rate, often small jobs kitchens etc which I use to fill in gaps in the schedule so I can't suddenly ask for more on this one particular job!

You can tell him the going rate is at least 25/sqm and take it from there.
Or you could do it for 10/sqm and help him fill one of the tanks on the supercars!

 

[Flintstone]

Noooo the supercar man is the customer, I'm dealing with the tile shop who's job it is!

 

[hmtiling]

Noooo the supercar man is the customer, I'm dealing with the tile shop who's job it is!

Surely the tile shop have done this on a supply and fit meterage rate? hope they're not making a fortune on you here

 

[One Day]

Noooo the supercar man is the customer, I'm dealing with the tile shop who's job it is!

Doesn't change my opinion I'm afraid. Dropping under 25/sqm is bad for business - medium and long term.
On principal I'd stick to my guns and even lose the job if it comes to it.

 

[peteablard]

2 days work, not a chance I'd do it on day rate.

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

1 hour...😛

2 tea breaks then

 

[Flintstone]

Surely the tile shop have done this on a supply and fit meterage rate? hope they're not making a fortune on you here

He will be mate yea. I might pull the plug on this one

 

[One Day]

I had a 350sqm floor on anhydrite.
I agonised over the price because the total looked so large but in the end went in at 25/m + materials and promised a perfect job.
Glad I did because it took longer than it should have done.
Issues around scheduling, other trades in the way, floor not as flat as should be...
I did ok in the end, but not as ok as it "should" have been....

 

[Unused Account 1]

The people who are loaded always want cheap job lol

 

[Flintstone]

Don't get me wrong if this was any general customer it would be £25 a meter. Surely I'm not the only one to do day work jobs for contacts, be it a shop or builder or whatever?

 

[hmtiling]

Don't get me wrong if this was any general customer it would be £25 a meter. Surely I'm not the only one to do day work jobs for contacts, be it a shop or builder or whatever?

No, your not, but I'd refuse to on this as you should be making good money on it. The tile shop will have there 100/150% mark up already.

 

[Flintstone]

the problem is, with him being a shop, his price is plus vat to the customer, so yea he will be making a chunk but he can't pay me 25, then his margin, then 20% vat on top

 

[Spare Tool]

I do actually get your predicament, think if you want to do the job just do it on day rate and take your time, book a week out for it and don't think about smashing meters down...wage, at the end of the week is a wage 🙂

 

[Martyn Leeds]

even at £20 p/m Labour Only is a good whack, divide that by 3 days and its a good rate. Even by 4 days is still a good rate

 

[One Day]

Porcelanosa used to do fixers a favour, in as much as they would tell customers that the cost of fixing a large floor would be roughly equal to the cost of the tiles.
If a customer paid say 30/sqm for tiles, why charge 10/sqm for fixing? Tile shop would only reduce their profit slightly for quantity, yet here we have a situation where due to quantity, the poor old tiler is expected to drop right down to day rate rather than make a tidy profit.
If all tilers stood firm on this, we'd all benefit!
Trouble is too many tilers and too much pressure to win a job.

 

[Italy]

if it is just for this job.
localtiler is right, if it has always done pay per diem wage this client and although short days, he has always paid full day, it seems fair to continue like this. to Max lengthens work. (Do the job quietly)

 

[John Benton]

My plumber just had a similar problem, his customer had seen a £100 tap and that's the one he was going to get, plumber quotes £45 for changing tap and customer accepts. Plumber turns up to do job and customer saw another tap that cost only £35 and now wants a reduction in fitting costs pro rata with cost of tap. One word, idiot!

 

[Flintstone]

I think my best option is to do as said, just take my time with it and not bust my balls. I think another tiles who is also a friend is going to give a hand for a day or so as I only have a 3 day maybe 4 day slot, will have to go to greasy Vera's for breakfast and lunch and for a cuppa every hour!

 

[peteablard]

People are on here all the time moaning about being undercut when they've priced jobs up. It's no wonder if people are prepared to do jobs like this on day rate.