To tile before or after wall-hanging the WC? - Tile Advice

[rgroom]

Hi there.

I'm installing a wall-hung WC - it's a Roca Giralda, and I'm using a Geberit Duofix frame for the job.

I've mounted the frame very securely to the outside wall using the supplied thread lockers, so there's absolutely no movement, and then installed a sheet of 12.5mm Aquapanel (cement board) across the front of it to conceal the cistern, and cut out all required holes in it to pass through from the pan. The Aquapanel is in contact with the front of the frame, and I've run A/P screws through into the frame itself into holes I pre-drilled in it, sp the panel is a good secure fit.

The question I have is whether I can lay the tiles (these are floor grade tiles) onto the Aquapanel and then install the pan over them, or whether I'm going to need to fix the pan onto the Aquapanel and then try to cut the tiles to go around it. Obviously I'd far prefer the former, as I can just cut out rough holes for the pipework.

My concern is that the pan sitting on the tiles may cause the tiles to crack...?

Is this likely?

Many thanks in advance!

 

[DHTiling]

Tile first... A good bed of adhesive and you will have no probs... done loads of them.

 

[Sean Page]

Providing the tiles have a solid bed behind they should be ok to hang the WC on. You'll get a neater finish that way too

 

[TheRealRobG]

Fantastic news, thanks guys!

Would you recommend flexi or non-flexi adhesive for this?

 

[DHTiling]

Fantastic news, thanks guys!

Would you recommend flexi or non-flexi adhesive for this?

Either...

 

[doug boardley]

tile first and then hang the toilet mate

 

[DHTiling]

Hi there.

I'm installing a wall-hung WC - it's a Roca Giralda, and I'm using a Geberit Duofix frame for the job.

I've mounted the frame very securely to the outside wall using the supplied thread lockers, so there's absolutely no movement, and then installed a sheet of 12.5mm Aquapanel (cement board) across the front of it to conceal the cistern, and cut out all required holes in it to pass through from the pan. The Aquapanel is in contact with the front of the frame, and I've run A/P screws through into the frame itself into holes I pre-drilled in it, sp the panel is a good secure fit.

The question I have is whether I can lay the tiles (these are floor grade tiles) onto the Aquapanel and then install the pan over them, or whether I'm going to need to fix the pan onto the Aquapanel and then try to cut the tiles to go around it. Obviously I'd far prefer the former, as I can just cut out rough holes for the pipework.

My concern is that the pan sitting on the tiles may cause the tiles to crack...?

Is this likely?

Many thanks in advance!

Fantastic news, thanks guys!

Would you recommend flexi or non-flexi adhesive for this?

Just so we all know..

Same member.. so all sorted now.

 

[James H]

Use one of these to prevent tiles cracking when you hand the toilet. Thank me later.

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[James H]

Use on of these so you don’t crack the tiles when hanging your toilet.

Wärmer System Sound Insulation Mat Gasket for Wall Hung WC Toilet Pans Frames with Plugs and Washers : Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

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[Crystal]

For sanitary reasons, is it necessary to tile the wall behind a wall hung toilet?

 

[Minmax89]

Use one of these to prevent tiles cracking when you hand the toilet. Thank me later.

Wärmer System Sound Insulation Mat Gasket for Wall Hung WC Toilet Pans Frames with Plugs and Washers : Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools

Free delivery and returns on all eligible orders. Shop Wärmer System Sound Insulation Mat Gasket for Wall Hung WC Toilet Pans Frames with Plugs and Washers.

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Interesting! I’ve fitted many a wall hung toilet, directly onto tiles and never had an issue with a tile cracking (always making sure the tiles are well bed), BUT I like the idea of this. Do you use them often? Or always?
Come to think of it I did once purchase for a client an all in one kit (cistern frame, toilet and seat, all in one box) from fluid master and it had one of these foam things in it that was fitted between toilet and tile. Was not really sure what it was there for but fitted it anyway

 

[Ben-gee]

those gaskets are primarily for sound insulation, ze Germans love a quiet poo!