Can Anyone Offer Advice On A Rookie Mistake?

[donwheelay]

Hi guys,

Thanks so much for all of your responses - but there seems to be a bit of a difference of oppinion on the matter! So i will add a bit more info.

I have tiled around a bath which is sat in the corner of the bathroom. Standard size bath and tiles go up to just shy of the ceiling.

Ive checked the tiles again this morning and no more have come loose that i can ascertain (ive checked at least 20 of them) also they are quite small porcelain tiles (10cm x 10cm). They do seem like theyre going nowhere.

The walls that i have tiled were both plastered and one side goes on to block work and one goes on to stud work neither of the walls which the bath is fitted onto has a door attatched. The door is on the opposite corner of the bathroom going off on a diagonal. I have not re-plastered the walls as they were quite smooth except for a few dings here and there. The plaster will likely have been there since at least the early 90's looking at the 'style' (if you can call it that!) Of the old bathroom suite.

When the tile came loose yesterday it did not fall out, one end of it just kind of 'popped out' by approx 1cm. The adhesive was still a little damp and quite gritty underneath as if it were semi dried.

I think thats about as much info as i can give but if you have any other questions, please do ask.

Thanks again for all your help.

Kind Regards

Rob

 

[bcd-87]

Hi guys,

Thanks so much for all of your responses - but there seems to be a bit of a difference of oppinion on the matter! So i will add a bit more info.

I have tiled around a bath which is sat in the corner of the bathroom. Standard size bath and tiles go up to just shy of the ceiling.

Ive checked the tiles again this morning and no more have come loose that i can ascertain (ive checked at least 20 of them) also they are quite small porcelain tiles (10cm x 10cm). They do seem like theyre going nowhere.

The walls that i have tiled were both plastered and one side goes on to block work and one goes on to stud work neither of the walls which the bath is fitted onto has a door attatched. The door is on the opposite corner of the bathroom going off on a diagonal. I have not re-plastered the walls as they were quite smooth except for a few dings here and there. The plaster will likely have been there since at least the early 90's looking at the 'style' (if you can call it that!) Of the old bathroom suite.

When the tile came loose yesterday it did not fall out, one end of it just kind of 'popped out' by approx 1cm. The adhesive was still a little damp and quite gritty underneath as if it were semi dried.

I think thats about as much info as i can give but if you have any other questions, please do ask.

Thanks again for all your help.

Kind Regards

Rob

What adhesive did you use rob ?

Thanks

 

[donwheelay]

What adhesive did you use rob ?

Thanks

Hi there,

I used unibond a tub of unibond wall tile adhesive and grout with anti mould which the guy at the store assured me would be perfect for a smallish job........

 

[On one]

Mmmm, a few things....
Tile adhesive is made for fixing tiles,
Grout is made for grouting tiles,
So you wouldn't fix tiles with grout would you? for all that certain Co's manufacture 2 in 1 Adh/grout combo's
it's not a great idea.
Fixing porcelain tiles with this type of adhesive?
not a great idea either,however small the tiles may be. The adhesive should have had better 'grab'
qualities.
Can't understand why the shop didn't sell you separate adh and grout,unless your advice came from
Homebase,Wickes,B&Q,etc,etc

 

[donwheelay]

Mmmm, a few things....
Tile adhesive is made for fixing tiles,
Grout is made for grouting tiles,
So you wouldn't fix tiles with grout would you? for all that certain Co's manufacture 2 in 1 Adh/grout combo's
it's not a great idea.
Fixing porcelain tiles with this type of adhesive?
not a great idea either,however small the tiles may be. The adhesive should have had better 'grab'
qualities.
Can't understand why the shop didn't sell you separate adh and grout,unless your advice came from
Homebase,Wickes,B&Q,etc,etc

Thanks for the thoughts.

Perhaps in my naievity i went to B&Q as ive bought many things from there over the years for various projects and theyve always turned out fine.

Ive tiled walls and floors in the past with stuff ive bought from B&Q, the walls i cant comment on the current status of as ive long since departed those properties, but i tiled the floor in my parents conservatory 8 years ago and thats still going strong.

I did make a mistake in my earlier post - the tiles are ceramic and not porcelain - does that make a difference?

Ive checked the tiles again just and they really do seem to be stuck firm. Im still in two minds about what to do but they do seem ok.

I have not yet grouted however, would you suggest i purchase an alternative product for this? And if so what?

Thanks again for your help.

Rob

 

[bcd-87]

Hi there,

I used unibond a tub of unibond wall tile adhesive and grout with anti mould which the guy at the store assured me would be perfect for a smallish job........

In your last post you said you had porcelain tiles ? Providing the adhesive has the correct aditives in to adhere to the none pourus tile

Thanks for the thoughts.

Perhaps in my naievity i went to B&Q as ive bought many things from there over the years for various projects and theyve always turned out fine.

Ive tiled walls and floors in the past with stuff ive bought from B&Q, the walls i cant comment on the current status of as ive long since departed those properties, but i tiled the floor in my parents conservatory 8 years ago and thats still going strong.

I did make a mistake in my earlier post - the tiles are ceramic and not porcelain - does that make a difference?

Ive checked the tiles again just and they really do seem to be stuck firm. Im still in two minds about what to do but they do seem ok.

I have not yet grouted however, would you suggest i purchase an alternative product for this? And if so what?

Thanks again for your help.

Rob

Hi Rob

Yes not being porcelain makes a big difference this is positive mate

BAL do a product called miroband, it's aWhite grout very good in my opinion

This may do the trick but bare in mine grout is a binding agent not an adhesive.

 

[Dan]

Your tiles will just fall off in a sheet if you use good grout.

If you try to pull one off what happens?

And if you tap them with a coin do they sound hollow?

 

[Mr Tiler]

Your tiles will just fall off in a sheet if you use good grout.

If you try to pull one off what happens?

And if you tap them with a coin do they sound hollow?

Dont tap tiles with coins use ur nuckle

 

[Dan]

Dont tap tiles with coins use ur nuckle

The test is literally called the coin test lol

 

[Mr Tiler]

The test is literally called the coin test lol

coins make tiles sound hollow sometimes when there actually solid mate ive witnessed it