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Thanks for your reply. Sadly for me, I've learned my lesson the hardest way. I find it incredible that a certain few people out there have got no consciences, whatsoever. My own conscience wold never let me blag I could do something I couldn't.
Gentlemen, it's been a very eventful day!
I took all the tiles off on the two external walls (they all popped off very easily, mostly by hand or a blade under tile corner). I found the bonding he used was still pretty damp so the adhesive in those areas was soft as putty. I also found that the surface of the lathe & plaster wall itself seemed unusually damp (never noticed a problem with it prior to the tiling).
So, have now ripped the whole lot out back to the bare bones & I'm feeling pretty scared! Surely nothing else can go wrong...
I'll post up some before & afters!

The dampness was due to the moisture from the adhesive, tubbed addy needs only to be a maximum 3mm any thicker and will take an age to dry out, also one surface needs to absorbant to allow the addy to dry out which lime mortar is.
 
nicky what is your profession? have you got colleagues who've had similar work done. have they got numbers for people they trust and could recommend. have a look at the work theyve had done if they recommend any on. goodluck
 
I feel for you Nicky a simple job for any reasonable tiler . a few years ago I may of been able to help you out as I used to work for a company from T W . who recommended this clown to you if it was the plumber then you may be able to get him to rectify things as he has a responsibility.
I personally would rip them all off then get a plasterer to re skim your walls then find a tiler advertise on here if need b,e then get your plumber back .
or look for a company like mine who do every thing plumbing tiling plastering etc but unfortunately getting some one at short notice may be difficult we are nowfully booked till mid September .
good luck I feel for you
Hi Ray, Sorry for the late reply (& thanks so much for your reply!) it's been a busy & eventful day in my little house. I took the day off & took almost everything down. I discovered the lower walls were damp as heck so I've taken the lot down. My plumber friend arrived later on this evening & took the rest down. It wasn't my plumbers recommendation, it was a guy I knew who runs his own building firm & he quoted the job initially but he wasn't free for several weeks so he recommended someone he used to work with. I was daft enough (with hindsight) to go with it because I wanted to trust him & I was genuinely excited about having a new bathroom. Now the dreams all turned into a bit of a nightmare!
I used to work for the Kent fire & rescue service & an ex-colleague who does general building works popped around this evening to have a look. He thinks the floor tiles (that cost me 50 quid a sq metre) have to come up too!!
Greg, my plumber has put the old loo back in temporarily while I scratch my head & work out what the eff to do next!
Sounds like you/your company must do a pretty awesome job if you're booked up that far in advance!
I'd love to learn how to do all this myself. If I was younger & free-er (is that even a word!) I'd ask if any of you had an apprenticeship going! 🙂
I've looked at some pictures on this site of some of the work that you guys do & it's incredible.
I wish I'd found you all before this all started & not after.
The support & kindness in all your replies has just blown me away... Thank you

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Hi Ray, Sorry for the late reply (& thanks so much for your reply!) it's been a busy & eventful day in my little house. I took the day off & took almost everything down. I discovered the lower walls were damp as heck so I've taken the lot down. My plumber friend arrived later on this evening & took the rest down. It wasn't my plumbers recommendation, it was a guy I knew who runs his own building firm & he quoted the job initially but he wasn't free for several weeks so he recommended someone he used to work with. I was daft enough (with hindsight) to go with it because I wanted to trust him & I was genuinely excited about having a new bathroom. Now the dreams all turned into a bit of a nightmare!
I used to work for the Kent fire & rescue service & an ex-colleague who does general building works popped around this evening to have a look. He thinks the floor tiles (that cost me 50 quid a sq metre) have to come up too!!
Greg, my plumber has put the old loo back in temporarily while I scratch my head & work out what the eff to do next!
Sounds like you/your company must do a pretty awesome job if you're booked up that far in advance!
I'd love to learn how to do all this myself. If I was younger & free-er (is that even a word!) I'd ask if any of you had an apprenticeship going! 🙂
I've looked at some pictures on this site of some of the work that you guys do & it's incredible.
I wish I'd found you all before this all started & not after.
The support & kindness in all your replies has just blown me away... Thank you

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The dampness was due to the moisture from the adhesive, tubbed addy needs only to be a maximum 3mm any thicker and will take an age to dry out, also one surface needs to absorbant to allow the addy to dry out which lime mortar is.
Most of it was much thicker than 3mm, some at least twice that, I reckon. (I wonder if he even stirred the tub)
 
nicky what is your profession? have you got colleagues who've had similar work done. have they got numbers for people they trust and could recommend. have a look at the work theyve had done if they recommend any on. goodluck
I'm office bound these days, I work for AXA PPP, medical insurance. Used to work for the retained fire service as a fire-fighter as well, which I did for nearly 7 years so hard work or getting my hands dirty doesn't phase me, it's just uncertainty that does.
I didn't start out on this project wanting to cut corners & so I've learned a hard lesson
 
Hi, hello to everyone in the forum! I'm Nicky & I'm currently having my bathroom renovated. I've been so excited about this but now I'm worried that the tiling hasn't gone as well as I'd hoped. The tiler said the job would be completed in 2.5 - 3 days ... He started on Wednesday morning & still hasn't finished tiling or done any grouting. Six tiles have called off & he said he'd be here yesterday but didn't turn up & hasn't returned my messages or calls.

I'm concerned the internal joints where the shower will be, have not been done properly. Also, on the main wall, he cut tiles at either end are of completely different sizes. It just doesn't look right.

I'm worried about what to do next & I don't know which way to turn. I've got 2 little children returning home tonight from spending the weekend at their Dad's & we have no bathroom.

Would really appreciate some opinions on whether I should go ahead & try to grout it myself or take it down & get someone to start again.

Thank you x
I'd say don't pay him. If primer not used and tiles falling off already. Just bite lip and do it again unfortunately. You bought tub adhesive which I never use. Cuts are poor. But realistically your never be happy now until it's done properly. I'm sure many on here can help. I'd be happy to also. But whatever you decide. Don't pay him
 
I'd say don't pay him. If primer not used and tiles falling off already. Just bite lip and do it again unfortunately. You bought tub adhesive which I never use. Cuts are poor. But realistically your never be happy now until it's done properly. I'm sure many on here can help. I'd be happy to also. But whatever you decide. Don't pay him
Hi @Kevbos, yes it's a re-do on almost all of it. I've taken the lathe & plaster down now & stripped it all back to the bare brick. It's a mess but at least now there's a plan in place to move it all forward buts it's going to be a good couple of weeks before anyone can start the work. I've been taking the floor up as well today 🙁 see the 2 part overhang on the puzzlingly placed ply he put down on top of the existing base... Even as a bystander I'm guessing the first bit of weight applied to that & the tile would snap off. He's sent messages today asking for his money & I'm not sure how to broach the subject with him as I'm fearful of the conflict.
He used powder adhesive for the floor & its rock hard on my tiles 🙁
Any tips on how to get this off welcomed? Is it just plain soaking & scraping or can it be ground off without damaging the tile?

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You can grind off the adhesive, very dusty time consuming job.
That's ok. As long as they're salvageable I'll get stuck in. All I can taste is dust so a wee bit more won't make a lot of difference

Hardboard is definitely not a tiling substrate.
I wondered that as he laid them on Friday & they were fairly easy to lift today. They just took the top coating layer of the board off with them
 
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You be careful with a grinder, one slip and that can cause a major accident.
Oh dear! I've never used one before, that sounds a bit scary! I'll make sure I've no distractions when I do it. (I clipped my plumbers van today His van was ok but my cars got some added character)
Is it an angle grinder I need to ask for at the tool hire place?
 
Oh dear! I've never used one before, that sounds a bit scary! I'll make sure I've no distractions when I do it. (I clipped my plumbers van today His van was ok but my cars got some added character)
Is it an angle grinder I need to ask for at the tool hire place?

Where tiles expensive on the floor....
 
When you get a tiler ask him/her to do it for you, last year I slipped with a wire brush on a grinder and it does churn the skin up and leave a bad scar.
Oh no! Sounds nasty. Hope it didn't take too long to heal! You've a good point, I'll ask if they will do it as they'll do it a lot quicker & more efficiently than I'm likely to
 
This job just gets worse and worse, the pictures to any half decent tradesman made horrible viewing and the "tiler" now has the nerve to come chasing his money. Hope someone can get this sorted for you.
 
This job just gets worse and worse, the pictures to any half decent tradesman made horrible viewing and the "tiler" now has the nerve to come chasing his money. Hope someone can get this sorted for you.
Thanks @Rich Midge, appreciate the support. I'm glad it's not me just being 'picky', which was how he described me when I mentioned my concern about his cuts, etc. He said that mastic would hide all that
 
All I can taste is dust so a wee bit more won't make a lot of difference
If you are going to do it please wear a good dust mask. And eye, etc. etc. protection.
It will be time consuming, dirty and you may chip break a few tiles. 2.5 m2 new tiles at £50/m2 will cost £125!

The floor overlay top layer looks like it is unsuitable and so may be the lower layer so check it carefully (post pics if unsure and someone will advise what to look/check for).
 
Hi, hello to everyone in the forum! I'm Nicky & I'm currently having my bathroom renovated. I've been so excited about this but now I'm worried that the tiling hasn't gone as well as I'd hoped. The tiler said the job would be completed in 2.5 - 3 days ... He started on Wednesday morning & still hasn't finished tiling or done any grouting. Six tiles have called off & he said he'd be here yesterday but didn't turn up & hasn't returned my messages or calls.

I'm concerned the internal joints where the shower will be, have not been done properly. Also, on the main wall, he cut tiles at either end are of completely different sizes. It just doesn't look right.

I'm worried about what to do next & I don't know which way to turn. I've got 2 little children returning home tonight from spending the weekend at their Dad's & we have no bathroom.

Would really appreciate some opinions on whether I should go ahead & try to grout it myself or take it down & get someone to start again.

Thank you x
I'd say don't pay him. If primer not used and tiles falling off already. Just bite lip and do it again unfortunately. You bought tub adhesive which I never use. Cuts are poor. But realistically your never be happy now until it's done properly. I'm sure many on here can help. I'd be happy to also. But whatever you decide. Don't pay him
Hardboard is definitely not a tiling substrate.
If you keep posting we can talk you through the whole job. Lol.
 
If you are going to do it please wear a good dust mask. And eye, etc. etc. protection.
It will be time consuming, dirty and you may chip break a few tiles. 2.5 m2 new tiles at £50/m2 will cost £125!

The floor overlay top layer looks like it is unsuitable and so may be the lower layer so check it carefully (post pics if unsure and someone will advise what to look/check for).
You are so thoughtful, thank you @SJPurdy I've got a dust mask & some goggles somewhere from my previous decorating exploits on the downstairs (Jeez but I hate decorating ! I bought this house as a project & didn't realise just how big a project it'd turn out to be... Homes under the hammer has a lot to answer for )
 
I'd say don't pay him. If primer not used and tiles falling off already. Just bite lip and do it again unfortunately. You bought tub adhesive which I never use. Cuts are poor. But realistically your never be happy now until it's done properly. I'm sure many on here can help. I'd be happy to also. But whatever you decide. Don't pay him

If you keep posting we can talk you through the whole job. Lol.
Lol... If it wasn't for the fact I've had to take half of the walls down, I'd be up for giving that a go! (Unless anyone can talk me through building new walls? 😉 ) is there a face time talk through option on here?
You guys are awesome! I don't think there's been a question I've asked within the forum yet, that's ever gone unanswered! I know I've said it before, but thank you again.
I know this is a forum mainly for all you professional chaps so I'm so, so grateful for all your input.
Uncertainty can be a fearful & lonely place, y'know. end of soppiness
 
Hi Nicky, the forums for all and your right there's some top fellas and top ladies on here more than happy to help all comers, but just if you've not used a grinder probably best to leave for your tiler as Mark says, not worth losing a finger or two for the little extra it will cost for the tiler to sort. As above tell the wood butcher to take a walk. You've got the the photo evidence, you reached out to him and he never returned your calls and he never tanked and never primed, could be worth speaking with your local trading standards about him, he'll run a mile if you mention that to him. Good luck.
 

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