self employment.....

[Colour Republic]

OK I'll step up on my soap box one last time then gracefully bow out...

I'm a firm believer of nobody owes you a living and you make your own way in life. I don't think you are taking away jobs from other tilers. God knows there's a thousand others just round the corner so one more isn't going to hurt. It's not that you are taking their work (you're not as they were never 'entitled' to it anyway) it's that you are damaging the trades reputation and lowering rates.

Besides if a seasoned pro went to quote for the same job as you and you won it, then the pro really should be asking himself serious questions why he couldn't sell his services over and above yours.

Ask yourself this though, why are you finding it hard to get a job? Why is it that some seasoned pros are struggling to fill their order books? If those working in this industry are having a hard time and they have a massive head start on you, just how hard do you think you're going to find it?

If you are as enthusiatic about this trade as you say you are then keeping knocking on those doors until a tiler takes you on. Don't just knock once, knock 2,3,4,5,6,...10 times. My very first job I ever had is because they guy who owned the company decided it would far less annoying for him to give me a job than me hounding him day and night.

 

[jonnyc]

are you going to be self employed?.....meaning it is the only thing you do.......or are you working somewhere else..... and are going to moonlight as a tiler?

as for your question.........I use one credit card for all business purchases........that way all i need to submit it my credit card statements........

all the best

Lee

Interested that you say that lee .
do you really only have to show the statements and not supporting invoices.
i was told this by my new business manager at Barclays but he got sacked within two months of appointment .
My dad is an old school accountant retired for 25 years and he always insists that I have support invoices which can never be wrong but maybe times have really changed and you can get away with just statements.
i would be very interested to hear your comments

 

[Mr T]

Soap box lol this isnt about working under a tiler or learning more about the trade. Its about me earning a small amount for jobs I know im capable. But beleive me I have tried the working for free side of it and ive done my fair share to date. But I would like to earn a bit of bread for what I know I actually can do. I would happily work under another tiler as I love the trade for what it is not all about money. Cheers

 

[Colour Republic]

Soap box lol this isnt about working under a tiler or learning more about the trade. Its about me earning a small amount for jobs I know im capable. But beleive me I have tried the working for free side of it and ive done my fair share to date. But I would like to earn a bit of bread for what I know I actually can do. I would happily work under another tiler as I love the trade for what it is not all about money. Cheers

It frigging should be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:

 

[Mr T]

I mean this topic lol... Beleive me mate I know ive lots to learn lmao... Just wanne be able to send the baby out to the ice cream man once in a while lol

 

[Colour Republic]

Interested that you say that lee .
do you really only have to show the statements and not supporting invoices.
i was told this by my new business manager at Barclays but he got sacked within two months of appointment .
My dad is an old school accountant retired for 25 years and he always insists that I have support invoices which can never be wrong but maybe times have really changed and you can get away with just statements.
i would be very interested to hear your comments

I use to work in finance for a record company and supported invoices should always be kept, if the accountant is doing their job correctly they should also be checking those invoices to see if you can put it against the business.

 

[prceramics]

if the customer is happy to pay for the standard of work you have done good luck to you mate, you are on the right lines being on this forum finding out the proper way 🙂

 

[Mr T]

Thanks mate im just worried now as im bound to cross daves path at a trade day someday haha.

 

[prceramics]

he will be fine if you are doing your job properly mate 😉

 

[Mr T]

Lmao... Im hard anyway... Hahahahahaha :mad2:

 

[DHTiling]

Thanks mate im just worried now as im bound to cross daves path at a trade day someday haha.

Now that would be good actually .. 🙂🙂🙂🙂..

Listen .. and i mean listen.. now ya Pal Ian isn't bugging the life out of me :lol:

NO ONE!! is saying do not tile , NO ONE is saying you cannot tile to a certain degree... BUT!! they are saying you will rub backs up the wrong way when you type
what you did..

So THINK!! before you hit the enter key.... simple as that..

 

[prceramics]

don't lower the tone :lol:

 

[DHTiling]

Also .. sit in on this webinar >>>>> https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/640881822

 

[Mr T]

Thats better a bit of advice lol... I will try to make myself more clear but just understand if I offend you or anyone else I dont even mean to in the firt place... But if I do mean to you will know for sure lol. Sound and will look at that vid when im eating me tea

 

[Daveshadowman]

Right my turn
1 talk to HMRC they will help
2 if you are doing work paid or unpaid you need to tell the dole office
3 the rules for unemployment are you have to be available for work not off tiling someone's kitchen
4 I do my own accounts with software purchased from HMRC
5 I have worked my arse off for 28 years to get where I am it is not easy I work on sites etc aleast 45 hrs a week then spend the same amount off time doing paper work
6 I do not take lightly to short course poeple who think they can tile it takes time to learn
lastly before anyone asks I do not do cash jobs every job is declared

 

[AliGage]

Mr T did you look at college or an apprenticeship?

I was a little shocked at your attitude in this thread to be honest, little suprised you didnt get more backs up either. Not looking to kick things off again, but my advice to you is still the same as it was 5 or 6 months ago.
C Rep' makes some valid points too. Going at things half loaded and a few pages missing is part the reason the building trades are in such a mess in the first place. I can wire a plug but it don't make me an electrician.

Wish you all the bedt whatever you opt to do, one things for sure I've never met s young'un as enthusiastic as you, credit.

 

[Mr T]

I agree with all thos issues mate.. I have already sorted a meeting with an advisor to Discuss self employment. My jobsearch is fully legit and check each sign on and you cant hide from it as its all done over the net now. And yeh I know its going to be hard going for at least my first 5 years but I want it and feel ready. Cheers mate

 

[Mr T]

Thank you Ali... I have been very busy the last couple of months and have done loads of tiling... Ive had to do all sorts and this site has helped me atcheive a good finnished propperly done job. I feel confident I can start taking the small work that is all mate and feel I deserve just a little not too much for all the work ive put in to date. College is completely out of the question as I couldnt live if I sign off. And apprentiship there is nothing at all going. Thanks matey

 

[Ian]

Have you got most of the tools you need now Ash?

 

[John Benton]

Interested that you say that lee .
do you really only have to show the statements and not supporting invoices.
i was told this by my new business manager at Barclays but he got sacked within two months of appointment .
My dad is an old school accountant retired for 25 years and he always insists that I have support invoices which can never be wrong but maybe times have really changed and you can get away with just statements.
i would be very interested to hear your comments

I keep every invoice that gets pays for materials/services on my credit card. Firstly, I can cross reference when doing my accounts. Secondly, it just says on the credit card bill where I used the card and to what value. The invoice shows what was actually purchased.

 

[DHTiling]

Thank you Ali... I have been very busy the last couple of months and have done loads of tiling... Ive had to do all sorts and this site has helped me atcheive a good finnished propperly done job. I feel confident I can start taking the small work that is all mate and feel I deserve just a little not too much for all the work ive put in to date. College is completely out of the question as I couldnt live if I sign off. And apprentiship there is nothing at all going. Thanks matey

So this loads of tiling was free and you told the dole you were not available on those dates you worked. 🙂

 

[Mr T]

Yeh bri well most I dont have the heavy duty cutters for stone but I wont be attempting stone yet until ive learned more about it. Ive had to run out to b&q time and time again to pick up this and that and now I have everything needed mate

 

[Daveshadowman]

Sorry mr t but you just said your signing on job search was ok then the very next post you say you have done loads of tiling over the last few months you are full of it this is way good trades man can not keep going because poeple like you do it cheaper than we can cos we pay our tax and NI

 

[DHTiling]

Right , I am out of this thread as I'm sure this wit is on a wind up.

 

[Mr T]

Ur a sad sad man Dave lol. Dig every chance u get first I wasnt a tiler now I am a tiler as long as I tell the tax office and now I have to declare everything I do at home? Kiss my mate

 

[Mr T]

Shadowman I was in the jobcentre at 3 declaring all the work I have done since making my new claim... Which I stopped claiming when I was working with sir ramic and had. A call to say I had work waiting for me... Ive been labouring for a builder and tiling in the evenings... U dont know how hard ive been workin lately... But now the work died off again so im back on tje dhole....No more posts from me... Good day.

 

[DHTiling]

Ur a sad sad man Dave lol. Dig every chance u get first I wasnt a tiler now I am a tiler as long as I tell the tax office and now I have to declare everything I do at home? Kiss my mate

You are a chancer. And your replies show that.

 

[Mr T]

No mate its you whos the .. Try to tell me you have never in your life not declared any earnings your full of it.

 

[Gazzer]

Enough of the name calling !. I want to keep the thread open but just calm down the cat calling.

 

[Daveshadowman]

I have worked all my life to get where I am this week I am looking into employing poeple not just using subbies.. I find Mr T way he is going about things wrong it is not the way business is done end of

 

[cam_low]

Hawwy lads shaun of the deads on. Top film haha