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White Room

OK....let's try again...

Here the Noble Chloraloy CPE pan liner is installed over a sloping mortar base. We started installing lath on the wall for floated walls (render in the UK?)

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Don't you put a building paper behind the eml Rob:thumbsup:
 
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Rob Z

Rob - see you're still using chicken wire for the outside floor area. What membrane are you using under it. Is the step made up with a waterproof 'mud'.

Timeless John.

PS I had the same problem with attachments - it would only allow 4.


John, the paper under the mud is a paper made for stucco work...it has a damp proof inner layer of some tarry stuff. Two layers of it give a certain level of rating behind stucco, as required for various building codes. \


It works well for us under mud because it virtually eliminates moisture from getting sucked out of the mud bed while it is curing.

This particular brand that I buy is called "Aquabar". It's good stuff.
 
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Don't you put a building paper behind the eml Rob:thumbsup:


Many times yes...when over plywood on the subfloor-yes. On walls with solid backing such as drywall-yes. For this job, where we scratched it and then floated a second coat, and the only contact the mud had was with the studs, and with a waterproof membrane on the outside-no.

The wall on the right side was the exterior wall, with the inner wythe being clay block parged with some sort of tar. It wouldn't suck any moisture out of the mud.
 
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Rob Z

John, I missed the other part of your question. The wire outside the shower and inside the shower is expanded metal lath. For some unkown reason, poultry netting is used on the west coast of the US and eml is used everywhere else for stucco and mud work.

The curb mud and the shower floor are mixed with Laticretre 3701 latex additive, which helps reduce the porosity greatly, although it doesn't waterproof it. There is a product here called "anti hydro", which is supposedly able to waterproof the mud, but I am not sure whether or not I believe it.

The curb and the floor are painted with Laticrete Hydroban liquid waterproofing before the tile is set.
 
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Rob Z

Here's two more. In the first picture you can barely see a plastic thing around the base of the drain...it covers the weep holes in the drain and keeps them free from getting clogged with mud.


The second shows the mud finished...on really large floors we will put 2" X 2" galvanized wire in the middle of the mud bed. This floor is too small to concern me with that so we didn't do it here.
 
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Wow. Could you imagine how much that would cost a customer in the UK? Looks a very neat job. I'll be using 8sqm of Homelux matting on Monday. I have not done a tanking job for about 6 months now. Not many people go fo it. Cheers for the pics.
 
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White Room

John, I missed the other part of your question. The wire outside the shower and inside the shower is expanded metal lath. For some unkown reason, poultry netting is used on the west coast of the US and eml is used everywhere else for stucco and mud work.

The curb mud and the shower floor are mixed with Laticretre 3701 latex additive, which helps reduce the porosity greatly, although it doesn't waterproof it. There is a product here called "anti hydro", which is supposedly able to waterproof the mud, but I am not sure whether or not I believe it.

The curb and the floor are painted with Laticrete Hydroban liquid waterproofing before the tile is set.

Used to use chicken over hear many years on insulation then screed, allways found the eml had to small opening for the screed, never seen it used over hear on floors:thumbsup:
 
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Here are two pictures of the finished job.
 

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We also used the Tuscan Leveling System to install the stone on the bathroom floor. This was the first time we used the TLS. The results were good but not perfect. I want to try it again now that we are more accustomed to it.
 

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Daveyboy

That's a real craft you have there Rob, which no doubt takes a lot of time and patience..well done and thanks for sharing it with us..:thumbsup:
 
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DHTiling

Looks good rob.....what have you used around the base of the walls where they meet the shower floor tiles...looks like a 2 inch strip of ????
 
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Hi Dave, that was cove base tile. It was a bit of :mad2: to cove it into the stone on the floor because the cove tile wasn't the same thickness as the wall tile nor was it the same as the floor tile. We also used it along the marble on the floor outside the shower. I posted that picture of the threshold that I made so Michael can see the funky tiger striping in the red oak. I hope it shows up well enough to see it in the photo. That was really a gorgeous chunk of wood.
 
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DHTiling

I did see that what ever you used continued outside the shower....looks good...nice job buddy..indeed very nice..:thumbsup:
 

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