Need help please

[lcjohno]

goog was supposed to say good luck with sorting it out.

 

[Alan.P]

Yep, a standard set single part flexible ( spf ) adhesive, that will give hubby plenty of time and will do the job nicely, what tile shop (chain) is it your going to ?

 

[123mazzy]

local tile shop not a chain but will be going to topps and buying bal. have we got to get all the grout off the wall? my husband is chiselling as we speak! the aqua panel was really expensive or we would have taken the lot down.

 

[lcjohno]

just get as much as possible off so its flat as possible. as long as there not massive lumps the trowel should get over a little unevenness. i always find grout comes off quite easily with a scraper or a little knock.

 

[Alan.P]

Try and get as much off as possible, as has been mentioned before, try soaking the adhesive ( not grout 🙂 ) to loosen it up prior to scraping.

 

[123mazzy]

just contacted the tile shop,guy says never had any problems before(would say that though) he says he will give us tilemaster single part flexible in white,slow setting.will that be ok? is tilemaster an ok brand? we contacted soverein and they even said it was wrong for the size of tile33x50,he said it would never dry out and that it is not waterproof,the guy at the tile shop said sovereign has never told them that!! hubby still chiseling away minus a days pay for taking the day off to get it sorted.:mad2:

 

[Alan.P]

Never used it, the spec sheet HERE says to ad admix for different tile types, i.e non ceramic, what tile is yours ?

 

[123mazzy]

ceramic tiles. should i insist on a refund and go for bal?

 

[Alan.P]

ceramic tiles. should i insist on a refund and go for bal?

Is he giving you the adhesive or are you having to buy it ? For piece of mind I would go for Bal or Mapei not to say the the other adhesive is no good, just never used it, something nagging me that it might be a better known brand that has been re-branded ... anyone ?

 

[merlecollins]

Hi Mazzy and congratulations on getting sorted at the tile shop - I hope he gave you a full refund for the Sovereign adhesive:incazzato:That Gripmaster bucket stuff is only really good for small kitchen splashbacks and the like:mad2:

I've never used Tilemaster, but Phil Hobson (one of the lads on here) was using their self levelling compound recently and said it was good stuff

At least you now know that you have the correct adhesive and once you get your walls all nice and flat again, you can both take a deep breath, forget about the bucket adhesive ordeal and start again, in the knowledge you won't have the same problem.

What size of notch is on Hubbys trowel? I would be using an 8mm square notch for your job

Is this the adhesive you are getting:

Standard Setaflex - Tilemaster Adhesives Wall Floor tile Grout Adhesive :: tilemasteradhesive.co.uk

Also, is there any plaster skimming in your room? If so you will need to prime those walls first before tiling them. Not so necessary to prime the Aquapanl or plasterboard, but you could to be safe DON'T PRIME WITH PVA I note that Tilemaster don't do a primer, so ask your tile shop what they have in stock. Mapei Primer G - Broken Link Removed - is a good one but BAL Primer will be just as good if you can't get it.

Just make sure you follow all the manufacturers recommendations and you'll be fine

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

 

[123mazzy]

if he wants paying for the other adhesive i will charge him the days pay my husband has lost to get the job sorted.wish i had gone to topps tiles to start with but thought we would patronise a local business.thanks to you all and i will keep you posted.

 

[merlecollins]

Be careful Mazzy - Topps is famously extortionate for adhesive and grout:yikes:

 

[123mazzy]

the one they have supplied us with for the floor is TA ultimate rapid set wall and floor adhesive.this better be ok as again he just sent the stuff with the tiles.(using same tiles on floor as on walls.

 

[Alan.P]

What substrate is the floor and what preperation has been done ?

 

[merlecollins]

Just be careful how fast it sets - I've never used this stuff before so cannot advise on setting times - just ask hubby to mix a small amount at a time or you may end up throwing most of it out set in the bucket:yikes:

What are you tiling onto on the floor? Is it timber or concrete?

Make sure they don't give you rapid set for the walls

 

[merlecollins]

Must learn to type quicker:lol::lol:

 

[Alan.P]

Must learn to type quicker:lol::lol:

I must type more words 😳 :lol:

 

[123mazzy]

the floor is 18mil ply and he will prime it first. the tilemaster stuf for walls is not rapid set.

 

[merlecollins]

What primer have you got Mazzy??

 

[Alan.P]

Again it 'appears' that they are trying to sell you the wrong gear, you need a flexible adhesive and grout for ply floors, also I would use a de-coupling membrane such as Ditra or Dura CI. The only adhesive that comes near on their site is the setaflex, this is a rapid set so if your going to use it make sure hubby mixes smallish amounts at a time, unless his speed is up to scratch.

Again, I don't know the products so will be prepared to be corrected.

Got to go out now, I'll leave you in Merle's capable hands, hope you get sorted out

 

[123mazzy]

What primer have you got Mazzy??

havent got any yet as we havent started the floor yet.with some adhesives you dont need to prime do you? think i am going to get my money back for all adhesives etc and start again,so please recommend all we need. have got microban bal ivory grout for walls and floors.

 

[merlecollins]

Hi Alan,

If this is the floor adhesive they have supplied it looks OK for ply floors:

Ultimate Adhesive - Tilemaster Adhesives Wall Floor tile Grout Adhesive :: tilemasteradhesive.co.uk

It seems that Flexmaster additive can be watered down and used as a primer as well

 

[merlecollins]

I think you might be getting necessarily worried Mazzy - it's just that most of the lads on here are loyal Mapei or BAL users and haven't used Tilemaster stuff

It looks like the floor adhesive you have is OK and you can use Flexmaster as a primer, which TA recommend for plywood floors

You could find that it's great gear, just nobody here can vouch for it just yet - if in doubt speak to their tech. support people

 

[123mazzy]

im off now to the tile shop with more knowledge than they obviously have so they better get ready(im a red head). hubby is an electrician so if you ever need advice just ask,will fill you in later with the results.:yikes:

 

[mikethetile]

hi mazzy

ive been reading this thread and havent joined in. too many cooks and all that

something that hasnt been mentioned with priming the ply is priming the underside before laying
this stops unequel stresses on the board which will cause cupping

ther are lots of threads on here about overboarding with ply so i wont go into a description of how to do it

good luck with topps

send them on here they will learn what their doing

 

[Alan.P]

Hi Alan,

If this is the floor adhesive they have supplied it looks OK for ply floors:

Ultimate Adhesive*-*Tilemaster Adhesives Wall Floor tile Grout Adhesive :: tilemasteradhesive.co.uk

It seems that Flexmaster additive can be watered down and used as a primer as well

My bad, I don't know what I was reading. apologies for that one and all 😳

 

[merlecollins]

No sweat mate

 

[123mazzy]

hi all,hopefully we have now got sorted with the tile shop,they were still adamant that the soveriegn gripmaster was ok and that they use it all the time(even though i told them we had contacted soveriegn and they even said it wasnt for use in shower areas and for the size of our tiles.) anyway they have given us the tilemaster adhesive slow setting for the walls in white and also the same or the floor but rapid set. hubby has just finished getting all the grout off the walls and is now starting to re tile,thanks for all your help and advice we dont know what we would have done without you all. keep up the good work .the amature tiler needs you,thanks again,maz.:hurray:

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Hi mazzy, just found this. All good advice from good people. Hope you get sorted

 

[Opus Ceramic]

hi.... sorry to hear what happened in your bathroom. sounds like there wasnt used any pva or pva wasnt decent one. to be honest it is common for diy people. also if your wall are plasterboard you are going to have to use a flexable adhisive in order to give some movement. good luck. kind regards. isa

 

[mikethetile]

hi.... sorry to hear what happened in your bathroom. sounds like there wasnt used any pva or pva wasnt decent one. to be honest it is common for diy people. also if your wall are plasterboard you are going to have to use a flexable adhisive in order to give some movement. please dont hesitate to contact. www.opusceramic.co.uk. good luck. kind regards. isa

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