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i used to be tough too doug but i've gone soft in my old age (well 43):smilewinkgrin:I use nowt, when you spent the winter months of your youth ferreting on top of Shap Fell you kinda get immune to it:smilewinkgrin:
not tough Mike, probs just not got any nerves in my hands now, (thanks for that dad!)....age 48:lol:i used to be tough too doug but i've gone soft in my old age (well 43):smilewinkgrin: