When scotland go's indépendant

We have got 8.2% of the UK population & pay in 9.9% tax & of that we get 9.3% back to spend in Scotland.
4.4billion goes into the uk treasury...
I'm not sure what years this was from, 2011/12?
There's a lot of lies & claim & counter claim going on up here & that's Cameron, Clegg & Milliband up here today but all that will do is turn more towards a yes vote.
 
Do the Scots actually believe everything Salmond is saying........he's a Politician for gods sake........they all tell YOU want YOU want to hear.

Same down here.

if it goes the YES route......he will be a hero for a short time only.
 
Do the Scots actually believe everything Salmond is saying........he's a Politician for gods sake........they all tell YOU want YOU want to hear.

Same down here.

if it goes the YES route......he will be a hero for a short time only.

I don't believe everything Salmond is saying, I have done quite a bit of research over the past few months & that has pushed me to a yes vote.
I watched Alistair Darling getting interviewed on Scotland tonight last night & his opening speech was that we all need transparency & the truth then didn't answer one question that was put to him.
I will be glad when it's all by but it is going to have serious implications for everyone..
 
I don't believe everything Salmond is saying, I have done quite a bit of research over the past few months & that has pushed me to a yes vote.
I watched Alistair Darling getting interviewed on Scotland tonight last night & his opening speech was that we all need transparency & the truth then didn't answer one question that was put to him.
I will be glad when it's all by but it is going to have serious implications for everyone..
I think so too so why are we going through with this .i can see it going to yes and we are all going to suffer
 
And where will the border be?? And how many jobs will be created in order to rebuild hadrians wall?
It has been talked about today......but unfortunately this British resident(me) would end up on the wrong side of the wall!
 
Is there going to be a bunch of dispossessed folks... Perhaps we need a refugee camp somewhere near scotch corner...
 
My thinking is just because you can(have independance) doesn't mean you should(be independant)
A few nice juicy soundbites from the Yes campaign does not make up for a humongous amount unknown quantities/variables.
 
So.....do all the Scots in England,Europe...the rest of the world get to vote?.... just a thought.
 
My wife (From Edinburgh) would love to vote.........NO!

She has no vote though. Most of her family are voting No.

Salmonds bum twitched early on when he dropped the vote to allow 16 year olds to vote. Christ, 16 year olds don't know wot day it is. Especially the numpties in the part of Edinburgh that I lived in.
 
Is there going to be a bunch of dispossessed folks... Perhaps we need a refugee camp somewhere near scotch corner...
Unfortunately not everywhere north of Watford is Scotland
Scotch Corner is approx 150 miles south of the border on the A1 from Berwick on Tweed ( it'self a disputed town passing back and forward over the last Millenium).
There is a border now so not sure why it should change and the land in dispute is only for sheep !
No uk government has ever invested in the northern economy despite where they were born, and billions are to be spent getting the few into London faster from Birmingham when the M1 motorway stops just north of Wetherby!
Personally i feel that if this debate results in anything positive then a No vote should mean greater investment in the North and the larger Scottish cities and a Yes vote will be a continuense of neglect for an area of great potential!
 
i have no problem on a vote for independece its every bodys right but this should never been aloud to happen with out a clear plan in place of how you are going to achieve this ie how you are going to break up the nhs how you are going to break up police fire brigade army airforce navy banking currancy tax debt fishing oil uninployment benifits pensions and on it goes no real plans put forward inconpatance on a grand scale by all and we will all be paying the price for years to come a fullscale depression well look on the bright side the mp on all sides will have nice pensions well the rest of us can eat cake
 
Scottish citizens cost the nhs more money per head than anywhere else in the country. No doubt down to the deep fried mars bars and fish n chip suppers. .lol
So is Scotland going to be sorting out its own health care if the vote is yes..?
 
That's the problem right there, "we get massive subsidies"?
Who do you listen to, the Tory government?
Look a little deeper & you will see that we as per head of population put "IN" more than we get back out...
Oh Stef, I'm shocked and surprised at your reply. You didn't comment on my entirely deliberate use of the word 'Scotch'. I only used it to wind you up mate and I failed miserably. :thumbsup:
 
Oh Stef, I'm shocked and surprised at your reply. You didn't comment on my entirely deliberate use of the word 'Scotch'. I only used it to wind you up mate and I failed miserably. :thumbsup:

No biting from me, I'm sick listening to spin & counter spin from both sides.
To people like me, the common working man, nothing much will change.
 
BBC1 now.......Scotland decides.....the big big debate. Audience of 16-17 year olds. All look like they are from the posh schools.
Area my Mrs is from they don't know wot day of the week it is........or if they did ask a question, it would be along the lines of "will my Buckfast be going up in price"

All these bellends are promising the world...........typical bloody politicians.

George Galloway for gods sake.......now he is a fruit loop.
 
I don't who scots women is left of the presenter but were one of the wealthiness countries in the world...absolute tosh, in 2017 we will be paying back £70 billion in interest alone...the budget of the military and education.
 
Goerge Galloway has got the oil question right, who knows how much it will be worth in a few years time..
 
Goerge Galloway has got the oil question right, who knows how much it will be worth in a few years time..

We keep hearing the oil is running out.
But they have just invested billions in new fields.
The Claire ridge test rig has been stepped down till after the referendum & they are saying it is 2 to 3 times the size they 1st predicted, the biggest oil field ever found.
 
i think it will be a big mistake if its a yes vote , for scotland not for england , we cant stop you having the pound , but your credit rating will be lower than ours , borrowing for you will be higher for you estimated at 2%
the real thing that bothers me , we will never get rid of the tory.s with out the labour votes in scotland
 
I wish I made enough to pay 50% tax John as it will never happen if we get independence.

Norway pay 47% and they have oil!
Did I hear right that share values equal to the tax value of 1 years oil revenue was wiped out in 1 day when Royal Bank of Scotland suggested it would move its HQ out of Edinburgh!

The big big debate kids missed a great opportunity to ask Galloway why he had that daft hat on !!
 
my stepson lives and works in scotland . for a large company , who.s main head office is in sheffield , all ready talk of moving operations south ,
be care full what you vote , no going back
 
the real thing that bothers me , we will never get rid of the tory.s with out the labour votes in scotland

Another reason I left the UK, years of Blair and his cronies bleeding the country dry and buying votes with dole money and benefits.

Good luck Scotland with whatever you decide!

What percentage would either side need to win?
 
Norway pay 47% and they have oil!
Did I hear right that share values equal to the tax value of 1 years oil revenue was wiped out in 1 day when Royal Bank of Scotland suggested it would move its HQ out of Edinburgh!

The big big debate kids missed a great opportunity to ask Galloway why he had that daft hat on !!

Royal bank hurried out a statement stating that they were moving some technical jobs south & that there stance would be that they are not moving out of Scotland.
More "Spin"..
 

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