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These ARE low rpm tools. They are "big" because the viscosity of the stuff we mix put enormous strains on them; they need to be powerful and produce alot of torque to be able to cope and not burn out, and that tends to equal large motors.

Most of them have variable speed controls in the region of 250-600rpm. My Collomix does around 180rpm on the lowest setting.
 
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... Berg mixers are so-so...

I have one and is very adequate for me and it is very robust. Had it for over 3 years and still performs great.

The round framed paddle is much easier to clean than the flat one; just a quick spin on a measuring BAL bucket (for reaching to the top of the paddle) and a light brushing is all that is needed. :thumbsup:
 
Hello All,

THANK YOU sWe !!!!
So much information and very well put across, credit to you!!
GREAT site, THANKS ALL!

Good Luck
Johnnyp
 
Thanks very much for all this info and tips :smilewinkgrin: now if only i had read the last page (where you have compiled all guides in to a PDF) before i spent ages copy and pasting all your guides in to word so i could sit and read them at my lesiure :dizzy2:

cheers davie
 
this is an awesome thread!! thanks swe!! your a legend :8:

just what i was looking for!! perfect for a newb!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
 
read some of this the other day and it has to be the most informative post on the whole forum thanks for taking the time out to write it
 
sWe - Just read the guide to anhydrites etc - great info as far as it goes but I have seen lots and lots of failures using Acrylic primers. Too many in fact to be comfortable with them generally. Agreed many of these issues are to do with application or in cases lack of it. As it is more robust to, shall we say, less thorough installers, I prefer to recommend either water dispersible epoxy primer or even better remove the cement from the equation altogether and use gypsum based addy. :thumbsup: Price of this is not too disimilar to that of flexible cement based addy so I am told.
 
use gypsum based addy. :thumbsup: Price of this is not too disimilar to that of flexible cement based addy so I am told.

But not as easy to get hold of country wide ,off the tile retailers shelf...:mad2:
 
But not as easy to get hold of country wide ,off the tile retailers shelf...:mad2:

Agreed - I think it will improve though. Three years ago there were a grand total of Zero available in the UK - now there are three that I know of and I know at least 2 other manufacturers who are in development. At last they seem to have realised that we anhydrite whores are not going away and are getting on board. I am nurturing one or 2 relationhips with people willing to stock it - 2 deffinites at present, Norfolk and North Wales, and several other possibles - I know it doesn't sound much but I am thinking along the lines of "from little Acorns" and all that.
 
Myeah, anhydrite is a bit troublesome to tile onto using cementious adhesives. I find that a major problem is that it's got to be completely dry before anything goes onto it, and that's a bit hard to achieve most of the time, especially on new builds. Fortunatly for me and other tilers in Sweden, anhydrite isn't that common over here; afaik, it's mostly only used in office buildings where they use it to level the substrate prior to installing laminate floors and such. Only ever seen anhydrite in a few other places than office buildings.

The few times I've encountered anhydrite I've either ripped it out or gone completely nuts with primer.

Epoxy primer is probably a good idea in some places, but I'd be wary using in places where there is/could be rising damp, as epoxy tends to seal it in.

I've never seen gypsum based adhesives in retail over here. I suspect that if it's at all availible, it has to be ordered in bulk quantities, and then it's only viable for larger corporations that can afford to have their cash locked in stockpiles of materials.

Oyeah, btw, I tried to correct a small error in the post on anhydrite some time ago, but it didn't stick, it seems... I mixed up hydrolysis and hydration in my head when I wrote it. The correct one is hydration. Hydrolysis I the exact opposite of hydration iirc. In case anyone cares that is, or if there's someone here who could use some fancy words to throw in the face of builders who're about to do stupid things :thumbsup:

Btw, regarding gypsum based adhesives... How's that when installing, say, travertine? Gypsum adhesives harden through dehydration, don't they? That could cause staining on certain stone. Just a thought.
 
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Myeah, anhydrite is a bit troublesome to tile onto using cementious adhesives. I find that a major problem is that it's got to be completely dry before anything goes onto it, and that's a bit hard to achieve most of the time, especially on new builds. Fortunatly for me and other tilers in Sweden, anhydrite isn't that common over here; afaik, it's mostly only used in office buildings where they use it to level the substrate prior to installing laminate floors and such. Only ever seen anhydrite in a few other places than office buildings.

The few times I've encountered anhydrite I've either ripped it out or gone completely nuts with primer.

Epoxy primer is probably a good idea in some places, but I'd be wary using in places where there is/could be rising damp, as epoxy tends to seal it in.

I've never seen gypsum based adhesives in retail over here. I suspect that if it's at all availible, it has to be ordered in bulk quantities, and then it's only viable for larger corporations that can afford to have their cash locked in stockpiles of materials.

Oyeah, btw, I tried to correct a small error in the post on anhydrite some time ago, but it didn't stick, it seems... I mixed up hydrolysis and hydration in my head when I wrote it. The correct one is hydration. Hydrolysis I the exact opposite of hydration iirc. In case anyone cares that is, or if there's someone here who could use some fancy words to throw in the face of builders who're about to do stupid things :thumbsup:

Btw, regarding gypsum based adhesives... How's that when installing, say, travertine? Gypsum adhesives harden through dehydration, don't they? That could cause staining on certain stone. Just a thought.

The Epoxy Primers will not trap moisture but what they will do is act as an effective barrier to sulphates which is what causes the ettrignite reaction as they migrate to the surface as the residual moisture moves around in the system. If you could get it truly dry the reaction would not occur because it need water to progress. Of course getting it truly dry is impossible because it will, as with all screeds, equillibrate with atmosphere. I am surprised you don't see more of it in Sweden because I was under the impression that a lot of gypsum products e.g. wall board, wall blocks etc were used over there. Maybe not though. If you were to use an Epoxy DPM this is a different thing to a primer and it would indeed supress the moisture. The idea is that it controls the rate of moisture escaping in order that it can escape through the flooring at a rate at which it can cope. Some anhydrite Manufacturers now have completed tests which allow DPMs to be used in certain curcumstances. Heated screeds are still a touchy subject but this will no doubt come as well in time.

Hydration, hydrolysis - what's an "olysis" between freinds. I knew what you meant.

As for it staining Trav. Not certain but will find out. Don't beleive it would be a problem because it is white. The moisture level will be very low compared to the amount of gypsum present so the massive majority of the water will be used in the crystallisation reaction. I will hoever do some research amonst my European colleagues who use gypsum based far far more and come back to you.
 
Thanks for these sWe's. I am a newbie to the forum and as a plumber a newbie to the tiling world, but your explanations of thinks are really excellent and a good read. As somebody said at the start these could do with being on a pdf :thumbsup:
 
:thumbsup: thanks for taking the time to write all this valuable information on the forum and allowing people access to it.Very much appreciated..Daz.
 
Many thanks for this guide, great info for tilers just starting out and even for me who's nearly retired.
 
Thanks for taking the time and trouble to write all of this down in an easily understood manner.
 
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well I think I got my head around that...!
However what I have just read has brought me to a full stop because there was me just about to plough straight into PVA-ing my walls and floor then tile the lot.
Many thanks for your work it has prevented me causing major mess up and cost
cheers
 
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