How Much Would You Charge for this Tiling Work??

[tileman2]

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Hi Dan, quick question bud, Ive got to do a quote for 54sq m Granite tiles on floor, Roughly how much would you charge and how long would it take and experienced person like yourself, regards Kevin

 

[Dan]

I'd charge nearly double your standard rate. It's a fair job so don't loose it based on price alone. Talk to the customer about what you have got going for you. (whatever that might be, you know what I mean). I fear if you charged double you'd not get the job based on my sayso, but you can't do it at your standard rate. So somewhere between double and your standard rate for tiling would be an even between charging well and keeping the job.

Time it takes: It would take me ages. ALL your cuts are going to be on the wet cutter, so make sure you tell the customer this is why your price is priced a little higher than standard easy ceramics. If I did about 20 meters a day, you're talking three days. Then the day after (well morning or whatever) for grouting and cleaning. So about 4 days would be an option to give. But explain untill you cut a tile it's hard to tell if it's a soft or hard tile makeup. (Some can cut like butter, some have chippings in them that make it a pig to cut quickly).

If you did 13.5 meters a day and booked it in for a week, you'd have an early finish on Friday and would still have time to grout it all in the morning.

So you want a weekly wage + materials + a bit with a view to finishing early on your last day (I wouldn't tell the customer that though).

 

[tileman2]

Dan thanks for that info,

Metre rate in the north approx £20 sq m for ceramics so was thinking of £30 sg m, Daily rate apprx £150

If i charge daily works out at £750, but metre your talking over £1500 big difference

Id need 10 bags of 20kg adhesive which i could make more cash on.

Ive not done a lot of tiling myself so would probably take me a bit longer to carry out (completed North East Tiling around 4 weeks ago)

Regards

Kev

 

[Concept PHT]

I would ahve gone 40's, without bits. To be honest..... 🙂

 

[Dan]

Well charge a job rate at a good rate then, providing you can eat atnight, put it down to learning. But that's a nice job to make cash on too, you might not get one of these for another 6 months or more.

 

[tileman2]

Okay a follow up, Ive been and quoted this job basically its 54sm one large square room has had underfloor heating recently installed and has also been screeded just ready for the tiles.

The tiles are granite approx size 1/12 ft x 1/2 ft and 20mm thick.

I quoted £1800 which includes apprx £600 of materials which will cost me much less, making another 150-200 notes

The lady seemed quite happy with it and said she had a quote yesterday for around the same price which made her feel that this is the price which in my eyes is realistic.

I did obviously give her my speel (im the one for the job) lol and she was well happy.

I do think ive got this wrapped up but ill find out next week.

Regards

Kevin

 

[trevortine]

Good luck mate, I wouldnt have been so greedy on this one though, you will find that that sort of job becomes quicker to you as you learn. I would probably have charged about £1200 for this plus about £260 for adhesive and grout. It would take roughly 2.5 to three days so thats good money in my books. Just be careful not to lose work through pricing. You will acheive better reputation for beig fair and lets face it, no point in havin one good payin job and then nothin for a couple of weeks!

 

[tileman2]

I wouldnt have said it was greedy, this customer was loaded, massive house and loads of dosh. The price was for 5 days graft and a proffesional job. I didnt want to go in too cheap and lose it, as noted above previous quote was exactly the same as mine, i did mention that id knock 20% off materials if i got it.

Regards

Kevin

 

[Leatherface]

£40 TO £45 per metre - £45 if yoy can get it -
No-one has mentioned treating !!!!
Granite needs treating - I recommend LTP Matstone sealer.

 

[tileman2]

Yes it certainly does need treating thats why my price in my eyes is reasonable, Ive only charged around £30 sq m.

Regards

Kevin

 

[trevortine]

Sorry kevin , didnt mean to offend you by the greedy word! I am basing this job on one i done recently in travertine which was about 60m2. It took me three days to complete, including treatment. Still made about £1200 quid from the job, how many of your mates dont make that in a month, that was my point.

 

[tileman2]

Trevortine

No offence mate (greedy), If i could earn that £1300 in my current job every week id be laughing, Id probably only work two weeks out of four.

Then again id only get bored and i suppose that old saying "the more you earn the more you want"

Regards

Kevn

 

[trevortine]

benefits of being a tiler mate, im off to paris tommorow for the rugby, first days off for nearly six weeks now, come on the magners:wink_smile:

 

[Leatherface]

Yes it certainly does need treating thats why my price in my eyes is reasonable, Ive only charged around £30 sq m.

Regards

Kevin

Ouch !!!!

Guess I am greedy - I charge £30.00 min per metre for ceramic tiling

 

[trevortine]

you should have a gun and a mask sir:sad_smile:

 

[Dan]

Kevin,

did you stick the price in? If so, did you get it?

 

[tileman2]

Dan

Yep quoted £1800 inc materials, customer getting 5 quotes in total, she had already had one quote when i put minein and she said it was more or less the same price as mine.

I will hear next week

i will let you know if i here

ps, ive just done another quote today for a old friend

34sq m granite walls and floor newly plasterboarded and ply floor, its a bathroom with nothing in at the moment so it will be spot on as no cut outs for bath/sink/loo

I quoted £850 inc materials

Strange one though, i mentioned about the tiles will need sealing, and she said the tiles are already treated they get imported already done, i saw her kitchen floor and she said they hadnt been treated, they were very shiny (looked polished)

Anyone heard of this

 

[Leatherface]

Just quoted a kitchen floor - 15 sq metres of sandstone tiles - 25mm thick, random sizes. Have gone in at £55.00 per metre = £825.00. Nice if I get it. Will let you know

 

[tileman2]

Thats very nice if you get it,Does that include adhesive, How long will it take you.

 

[Leatherface]

3 days - sealed & grouted. Includes adhesive. I am very busy, so don't need to go in at low price to get job.

 

[tileman2]

Thats superb, What will you walk away with for that job after everything.

Did you read my previous post regarding granite tiles that are imported in that dont require sealing. I Thought they all needed sealing,Do you think shes made a mistake

 

[Leatherface]

Tell her you need to check for yourself - put in a seperate price for sealing.
Do the water test.
If you think they still need sealing advise the customer - do it if she is willing to pay.

 

[Concept PHT]

Heres another one - 17m/s of kitchen floor. Down and grouted in 1 day, with a bit of levelling for an hour the night before.

£430 (After bits)

Now tell me that tiling is not the way forward? 🙂

 

[tileman2]

Heres another one - 17m/s of kitchen floor. Down and grouted in 1 day, with a bit of levelling for an hour the night before.

£430 (After bits)

Now tell me that tiling is not the way forward? 🙂

Thats superb

 

[UKTT Darren]

The £90 guy was probably a retired guy doing a bit work on the side or some dole waller on the fiddle, keep talking the knowledge you were taught on the course and you will get the jobs even though you might be more expensive.
£90 to do the fiddle job from the cowboy, plus how much to put it right

 

[L & R CERAMICS]

Good luck mate, I wouldnt have been so greedy on this one though, you will find that that sort of job becomes quicker to you as you learn. I would probably have charged about £1200 for this plus about £260 for adhesive and grout. It would take roughly 2.5 to three days so thats good money in my books. Just be careful not to lose work through pricing. You will acheive better reputation for beig fair and lets face it, no point in havin one good payin job and then nothin for a couple of weeks!

spot on ar kid

 

[L & R CERAMICS]

now then dan whats happening

 

[Dan]

Cant believe how low some people go.

Just done a quote kitchen splashback on one wall across window and then right along adjoining wall approx 5sqm.

Before i started measuring up she said she had already got two quotes
first one £220
secon one are you ready for it

.................. £90 that includes adhesive, grout and trim.

If i couldnt beat it then job was going to £90 man, i just replied bye......

I did say he must be desperate for work and sort of said i do hope he does a good job, if you need me to sort it later you have my number.

I would have gone in at around £150 plus materials

Just for future reference. When you go to quote, take a few receipts for materials with you and show them what sort of price real adhesives cost.

You really have to show the difference between your skills and materials and the cheapest guy in town. Don't always say bye. Walk round the job with the customer and give them options and sort of get them to imagine you doing it cheap and what could go wrong (can't give you examples but a window wall is easy to waffle about in front of a customer, you could say look at this set out, then look at this one, now imagine if I was rushing, what would that look like? etc etc etc).

 

[Leatherface]

There will always be someone who will do the job cheaper.
Again - just think about how much the materials will cost for the job and how long the job will take to do.
How much do you want to earn for your labour ?

The choice is yours - If you can afford not to do the job then stick to your price. If you are desperate for the cash, then go lower.
Only you can tell !!
Good luck

 

[tjsmiler]

I just got a job at £51 per square and there is 66 meters of it too..... porcelain tiles 900mm x 150mm (long and narrow)

£400 on materials...top whack

£1000 wages to another tiler... leaves me with a nice 2k :wink_smile:

I asked the guy why he chose me out of the other 6 tilers he got quotes from and he said it was because i was the only one who said things that eased him of the things he was most concerned about (his guests, health & safety, noise etc etc) plus i put together a proper proposal on letter headed paper and stuff and faxed it back to him with a breakdown of exactly would be happening. The others had either just wrote a couple of sentences with a price and one just gave him a business card with a price on the back!!!

What i am saying is that not all customers are as concerned about the cost as you may think, many of them are more interested in standard of work and a hassle free service, professionilsm, apperance etc

I don't charge that on all jobs but it's nice to get it when you can 🙂

 

[tileman2]

Just for future reference. When you go to quote, take a few receipts for materials with you and show them what sort of price real adhesives cost.

You really have to show the difference between your skills and materials and the cheapest guy in town. Don't always say bye. Walk round the job with the customer and give them options and sort of get them to imagine you doing it cheap and what could go wrong (can't give you examples but a window wall is easy to waffle about in front of a customer, you could say look at this set out, then look at this one, now imagine if I was rushing, what would that look like? etc etc etc).

Dan, i never just said bye alhough it does read like that in the post, I explained that he must not have much work (was going to do it 5 days later so obviously hasn't). and like Darren said is probably a dole waller lol.

Thing is if you do them cheap thats the reputation that sticks, so when you do eventully up your prices your rep dgoes down the swanny.

I don't need the work, so i aint going to do cheap jobs although it would be good practice and i could to be honest undercut anybody and do it for peanuts, i currently work full time earning decernt coin.