Cleaning and sealing with Universeal .

[DHTiling]

Hi.. I have been given the opportunity to try out some products by Jason from Universeal uk ....

The job in hand is a travertine floor that was rather ingrained with dirt and cleaning products, very shallow and none grouted open pores on the tumbled surface.

They also have a wavey edge with pillowing , so the shallow grout made them harder for customer to keep clean, the job it's self by the original tiler wasn't the best installation and some quite bad lippage and grouting but it is deffo a lot better than it was.

And the slate was not in straight lines but again it was just to clean and re-seal.

So we have used Extreme clean to remove all this ingrained dirt etc... well it actually cleaned them better than i expected when i seen the colour the tiles had become over the yrs..

So we cleaned the floor and seen as the joints were approx 5mm shallow , we re-grouted as well... with ultra cololur in Jasmine.

We go back on friday to use Ultimate sealer from Jason as well...


The next floor was Multi coloured slate and it wasn't as dirty but required a good clean and to remove old acrylic emulsion sealer... so this was cleaned today as well.. and will be re-sealed on friday with gloss&seal satin finish..

Will post more pics on friday once all finished...











And these are some of the slate but we only cleaned it today.. so better pics when sealed..




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[UniverSeal]

Photo's look good Dave, the Travertine Floor has come up brand new...

 

[DHTiling]

Yes the Extreme cleaner is good stuff

 

[jonnyc]

Photo's look good Dave, the Travertine Floor has come up brand new...

jason .looks good .
i see you are doing well with universeal.
you entered market at a very difficult time and credit to you that i am seeing your products all over the place.
i apologize for not following through with samples you gave me.
i was going through a very torrid time with couple of big problems on jobs of my own and was totally consumed by them and did not give your product the attention it deserved .
would love to meet up again as i am genuinely interested in sealers as you know.
best regards johnny clarke

 

[UniverSeal]

Great to hear from you Johnny, It would be good to see you again, I'll give you a bell next week if that suits? Regards Jason

 

[jonnyc]

Great to hear from you Johnny, It would be good to see you again, I'll give you a bell next week if that suits? Regards Jason

yes that would be great jason. be good to catch up.

 

[tommyzooom]

How do you apply the extreme clean Dave? does it need scrubbing in, then hoover off?
It does look good, A 50/50 shot would have been good though.
I must try the colour seal, as it's something I'm asked about from time to time.

 

[beanz]

I always use Universeal Sealer, but didn't really think much of the extreme clean. It was recommended for grout haze removal by CTW. They said it was better then the grout residue remover, but didn't really do the job for me. I had to use HG in the end.

 

[DHTiling]

How do you apply the extreme clean Dave? does it need scrubbing in, then hoover off?
It does look good, A 50/50 shot would have been good though.
I must try the colour seal, as it's something I'm asked about from time to time.

we applied with a sponge at around a 3-1 ratio.. it was dirty lol ... left to dwell for around 15 to 20 mins then agitated with a bristle hand scrubber , then wet vac'd up to see result ... then applied another wetting of extreme to make sure we got deep into the pitting.. the second wetting worked a treat for the stubborn bits... wet vac'd up and then a wetting with clean water to neutralise..

pic 4 is a 50/50 clean and dirty shot from first wash ..

 

[DHTiling]

I always use Universeal Sealer, but didn't really think much of the extreme clean. It was recommended for grout haze removal by CTW. They said it was better then the grout residue remover, but didn't really do the job for me. I had to use HG in the end.

Wrong advice then , extreme is suitable for dirt etc but you will need a different make up for grout haze.. universeal do make a grout haze clean up liquid.. use the right products for the right job .

 

[beanz]

we applied with a sponge at around a 3-1 ratio.. it was dirty lol ... left to dwell for around 15 to 20 mins then agitated with a bristle hand scrubber , then wet vac'd up to see result ... then applied another wetting of extreme to make sure we got deep into the pitting.. the second wetting worked a treat for the stubborn bits... wet vac'd up and then a wetting with clean water to neutralise..

pic 4 is a 50/50 clean and dirty shot from first wash ..

To be fair, it sounds like you put a lot more work into it hehe!

 

[beanz]

Wrong advice then , extreme is suitable for dirt etc but you will need a different make up for grout haze.. universeal do make a grout haze clean up liquid.. use the right products for the right job .

Yep, i know they do, it was on the shelf next to the extreme clean lol! The guy in CTW insisted it was better... Grrrr! I'll know for next time

 

[DHTiling]

Yep, i know they do, it was on the shelf next to the extreme clean lol! The guy in CTW insisted it was better... Grrrr! I'll know for next time

Then go back in and slap the toe rag :lol:


Me and PHG did a comparison test with Extreme and against LTP grimex... and the result was a draw IMO..


Just to add though for other readers, always check the suitability of a cleaner with the stone choice at hand.. not all cleaners or grout residue removers are suitable for calcium based stones..

 

[beanz]

:lol:

 

[UniverSeal]

That doesn't suprise me Dave, as we all LTP formulas are very strong... I would be interested to see how a comparison between the two products for removing topical coatings, sealer, waxes etc?

Then go back in and slap the toe rag :lol:


Me and PHG did a comparison test with Extreme and against LTP grimex... and the result was a draw IMO..


Just to add though for other readers, always check the suitability of a cleaner with the stone choice at hand.. not all cleaners or grout residue removers are suitable for calcium based stones..

 

[DHTiling]

That doesn't suprise me Dave, as we all LTP formulas are very strong... I would be interested to see how a comparison between the two products for removing topical coatings, sealer, waxes etc?

Will have to see of we can arrange something..

 

[UniverSeal]

The Extreme clean will work well on that Slate floor removing the sealer coating.

Will have to see of we can arrange something..

 

[DHTiling]

The Extreme clean will work well on that Slate floor removing the sealer coating.

it has..

 

[Dougs Third Go]

is it okay on all limestone and stone floors? or is there any chance of etching?

 

[DHTiling]

It is ok for limestone but not checked for strength on polished.

There is a link in my OP.

 

[DHTiling]

Info here doug :

[h=4]Heavy Duty Cleaner[/h]Universeal Extreme Clean is a special cleaner that is nearly odourless and highly economic. Universeal Extreme Clean removes grease and oil, all kinds of ingrained dirt, stubborn stains as well as floor polish residues, old acrylic emulsions, care products, etc.
For thoroughly cleaning used or exceptionally dirty natural stone and tiled surfaces, suitable for use on polished, finely honed and rough marble and other natural stones and glazed surfaces. Suitable for internal and external use.[Data Sheet]
[h=4]Special Features[/h]

• Highly effective, dissolves & removes ingrained dirt, wax films, grease & oil
• Acid free formula
• Suitable on ceramics & natural stone
• Internal & external use
• Safe & easy to use

[h=4]Packaging Options:[/h]

• 1 Litre bottles with childproof cap (12 per carton)

[h=4]Coverage:[/h]Up to 25m2 per litre. Coverage will vary depending on the ratio of dilution.
[h=4]Directions for use:[/h]Apply an undiluted solution of Universeal Extreme Clean or diluted up to 1:5 depending on the nature of the soiled area. Allow the product to work for 10 to 20 minutes; brush occasionally. Do not allow to dry, Add warm water if necessary, brush areas that are most dirtied again before wiping up solution. On larger areas, use a squeegee and wet vacuum to remove the product, wash and rinse the area thoroughly with clean water. If the desired result has not been achieved first time, a second or third application may be necessary brushing the areas more vigorously. Please Note: avoid splashes on sensitive areas such as metal or wood, painted or varnished surfaces, wall paper, etc. Protective gloves must be worn at all times while using this product. We highly recommend trying the product in an inconspicuous area prior to use.
[h=4]Advice:[/h]For removing wax layers and the like, we recommend using Universeal Pro-Strip, for cement and grout residues use Universeal Grout Film Remover.