Sigma Video

[Gazzer]

Dont blink, but see how easy it is and how quick handles can be changed !!!
[video=youtube;tcoyp_SvY8M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcoyp_SvY8M[/video]

 

[Gazzer]

Or .....[video=youtube;OWfQmplnNZY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWfQmplnNZY[/video]

 

[Sean Kelly]

Been watching these vids all week. Got my 3c2m yesterday and will post a review when I get to use it. However, I would like to say that the manual that comes with the cutter is not worth looking at. These vids are a must if you want to learn how to put the machine together and operate it. Saying that, the demonstrator on the vid does an annoying thing where he 'pull' scribes the tile first (about 5-10mm scribe), then he 'push' scribes it. Then he does some fancy trickery to knock the breaker bar into and out of breaker mode. There is a slower version of the video available for people that have 10 mins spare!!

 

[Sigma UK]

Been watching these vids all week. Got my 3c2m yesterday and will post a review when I get to use it. However, I would like to say that the manual that comes with the cutter is not worth looking at. These vids are a must if you want to learn how to put the machine together and operate it. Saying that, the demonstrator on the vid does an annoying thing where he 'pull' scribes the tile first (about 5-10mm scribe), then he 'push' scribes it. Then he does some fancy trickery to knock the breaker bar into and out of breaker mode. There is a slower version of the video available for people that have 10 mins spare!!

Hello Sean,

With regards to the scoring back first on the tile this is what you are advised to do on all manual tile cutters regardless of the brand. When I started years ago the demonstrator with the Spanish brand always started about 10mm on the tile then pull back then score foward all the way then a little extra 10mm score again at the end of the tile. I did ask why this was the case and they told me that sometimes you can miss score at the start of the tile and then again at the end if there is not enough pressure. This then causes the tile to ping or veered of at the end. I know we have all seen that before. Another thing is the breaking of the tile. You are not really meant to hold the handle down breaking the tile as it builds up too much pressure but simply tap the end of the handle. Hope all that makes sense. I might do a short video if you want me to?.

 

[Gazzer]

I agree with the above although I rarely find it needed. Usually a score and slight pressure to cleanly break the majority of tiles.

 

[prceramics]

whats the best sigma to get 700 plus

 

[Sean Kelly]

Sigma, I'm so glad I mentioned it then. I thought that the tiler was Italian and he was showing off!! I have never seen any other tiler do this, but I will use this technique from now on. If I had known this a few days ago I would not have splashed out £361 on a Sigma and case !!! - only joking. A few mins of play with my new Sigma yesterday and I already know I will love using it. Many many thanks for the advice. Cheers Sean

 

[Sigma UK]

Sigma, I'm so glad I mentioned it then. I thought that the tiler was Italian and he was showing off!! I have never seen any other tiler do this, but I will use this technique from now on. If I had known this a few days ago I would not have splashed out £361 on a Sigma and case !!! - only joking. A few mins of play with my new Sigma yesterday and I already know I will love using it. Many many thanks for the advice. Cheers Sean

Ha!. I should keep quiet in the future. I'm sure after a bit of practice you will be cutting all sorts of stuff. I don't tile myself just demonstrate the machines in stores etc.. and most of the time the tilers show me what they can do and cut. I have had people cut 10mm granite, limestone trav (No filler) and all sorts?. Not sure on the finish but they seem to be happy with it.

 

[Sigma UK]

whats the best sigma to get 700 plus

If you are used to push scoring I would say something like the 3C2M Max cutter. It's easy to use and if you wanted to try another handle then it's no problem.

 

[Mr Tiler]

Hello Sean,

With regards to the scoring back first on the tile this is what you are advised to do on all manual tile cutters regardless of the brand.

what do you mean?

 

[Ian]

what do you mean?

Score 10-15mm in the opposite direction first so that you don't miss the end of the tile. If you watch the 2nd video, you'll see the bloke do it at the beginning of every score.

 

[Sigma UK]

Score 10-15mm in the opposite direction first so that you don't miss the end of the tile. If you watch the 2nd video, you'll see the bloke do it at the beginning of every score.

That's it Bri. Also means you don't have lean over trying looking for the scoring wheel?. Which is what I did when I first got hold of one.

 

[Mr Tiler]

yeh I got it certainly is a good way to cut never thought of doing that cheers

 

[CJ]

Where did you get it from Sean??

 

[White Room]

Score 10-15mm in the opposite direction first so that you don't miss the end of the tile. If you watch the 2nd video, you'll see the bloke do it at the beginning of every score.

Tend to do it that way just out of habit now...

 

[Sean Kelly]

Where did you get it from Sean??

CJ, got it from The Ceramic Tile Company Ltd. I spoke with Richard Thomas (the MD), as I was a bit confused with all the different model numbers. I wanted the latest machine, but he did not sell it. I also wanted the carry case, but was unsure if the machine I wanted actually fitted in the case. So to be certain, he contacted Sigma UK and they sent out a 3C2M and a case (£361). Lovely piece of kit and so glad I got the case too. Cheers Sean

 

[Sean Kelly]

Just to add, I tried Trade Tiler but they did not the cutter or the case I wanted (sorry wanted a sad face, but this was all I could find).

 

[Mr Tiler]

I'm really considering the cutter sigma suggested to me earlier but it would be such a push may have to wait a bit longer 🙁

 

[charlie1]

I'm really considering the cutter sigma suggested to me earlier but it would be such a push may have to wait a bit longer 🙁

What cutter do you have just now mate

 

[Mr Tiler]

The £44 b&q 600mm cutter bud. Doesn't line up correctly so precision is out the window... Scores terrible and breaks the tile however it wants in whichever direction. Very much regret buying but that's all I could do at the time lol

 

[charlie1]

It's very appealing going for a high end cutter at first! Do what I did, build up your tools slowly as you get work ( who cares what make they are as long as they are half decent). Big clinker gets good reviews.

Anyway, back on topic, apologies for straying! Sigma cutters are very good.

 

[Mr Tiler]

Lol yes matebi agreebi just knownsigma provides precision and no messing with the tiles I plan to cut atm. 3b2m Max is what I will be going for I think. Many of my tools are lower value but I feel that a good manual and wet cutter are essential and when a customer see's a cutter that looks like a spaceship, they will know that I am the real deal haha..... Yes stick to the topic please... Lol. :smilewinkgrin:

 

[charlie1]

Lol yes matebi agreebi just knownsigma provides precision and no messing with the tiles I plan to cut atm. 3b2m Max is what I will be going for I think. Many of my tools are lower value but I feel that a good manual and wet cutter are essential and when a customer see's a cutter that looks like a spaceship, they will know that I am the real deal haha..... Yes stick to the topic please... Lol. :smilewinkgrin:

Id say your slightly misinformed there, if your talking about precision then I'd say the rubi cutters slightly edge it because of the visibility of the wheel for point to point cutting. Sigma are more about quickness, robustness and breaking power. I think the 3b would be a very wise choice for you though although I would opt for the pull handle (quicker). I have both handles and much prefer the pull to push score. Also, don't think customers judge you on your cutter, they only care about the finish of your work and the price... They generally know nothing about your equipment so don't think they are judging you if you have cheap tools ;-)

 

[Mr Tiler]

I know mate was just kidding about the customer seing it lol... I understand what your saying having used both sigma and rubi cutters. But overall sigma seems the better option and as long as the middle mark lines up with the cutting mark on the tile that's precise enough for me. Also my dad who has been in all parts of the building trade over the years saw me drilling a hole in a tile and had never seen a diamond hole saw before so I know what you mean lol. I appreciate your opinion though Charlie thanks for the input. Sigmas rail bar and handle seems so much more solid and for me is an overall winner. Point to point on a rubi is very good though due to the scorer being on the little bar so easy to see but if you come across a nice thick tile you may risk bending those lovely sleek rail bars lol