BAL Quickset Render on uneven and damaged walls

[Fekin]

I have a 7 sqm kitchen wrap around splashback to do in the next couple of days "depending on the joiner fitting the new kitchen".

The walls are not in a brilliant state that need tiling, quite uneven and flaking away, and in places all the render has come away in small areas upto 25mm or so deep.

Im looking at brushing them down with a wire brush to get all loose materials off and I know realisticaly the splashback walls need plastering but the customer will not wait for that to be done, so Im looking at other options that are quicker.

Im looking at Bal quickset render to fill the deeper areas that have come away, then a general lite skim over the uneven areas to give a good enough surface to tile onto.

Does this sound ok to do ?

I recommended fitting plasterboard but customer does not want the walls to come out that much as well, so that's why Im looking at quicket render.
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Currently I can't even find a stockist of quickset render anywhere near me that dosen't have a 2 week wait for ordering in

Anyone any ideas, lol

 

[grumpygrouter]

Can't the walls have plasterboard replaced before kitchen is fitted?

Grumpy

 

[versatilene]

If plasterboards too thick would the customer go for something thinner like 6mm Marmox or another panel?

 

[DHTiling]

hi adam mate..just use rapid set to skim the walls...deep sections might have to be done in two goes...much cheaper and quicker way to make good the walls.....dave...

 

[Varley]

I have used rapid set to make good walls before, as Dave says, much cheaper and quicker (sets in 3 hours).

 

[crocotile]

hi

whats involved when going over a wall with rapid set as opposed to say a backing plaster.

do you fill in the large hole first??
then do you cover the whole wall with rapid set and run a feather edge over it??

thanks
croc

 

[Varley]

If it's a very deep hole then it will need to be done in two stages (priming before each coat). No reall need for a feather edge, you are only prepping the walls for tiling thay don't need to be super smooth like if you were painting them, just need to be good enough to tile over. Don't spend ages getting the finish silky smooth as your only wasting your own time (and money).

 

[DHTiling]

plus bal rapid set ....sets in 2 hrs.........dave...

 

[GazTech]

hi

whats involved when going over a wall with rapid set as opposed to say a backing plaster.

do you fill in the large hole first??
then do you cover the whole wall with rapid set and run a feather edge over it??

thanks
croc

rough it out and plaster with adhesive,slightly score it cross hatched for a nice key

 

[NickH]

Ive just done my own kitchen and most of the finish plaster and some of the render came away leaving some big holes. I used a Dunlop fast set natural stone adhesive, which can go up to 25mm, to fill the big holes then Dunlop set fast plus to fix the tiles. You can build it up if you need to and its very rapid, maybe 30 minutes, so you can get the job grouted and finished in one session. Much better than waiting for a plasterer to come and make a sh**ty job of it.

 

[sc24]

Ardex do a rapid set render ready-mixed in 22k bags excellent stuff, also recently used bal quickset cement for screeding up some steps and risers our supplier got it sent direct to site on a next day delivery cost about an extra £60 so if you need it quick it can be done, but if you can source the ardex its worth a try.

 

[devonmark]

Ive just done my own kitchen and most of the finish plaster and some of the render came away leaving some big holes. I used a Dunlop fast set natural stone adhesive, which can go up to 25mm, to fill the big holes then Dunlop set fast plus to fix the tiles. You can build it up if you need to and its very rapid, maybe 30 minutes, so you can get the job grouted and finished in one session. Much better than waiting for a plasterer to come and make a sh**ty job of it.

Depends on who your plasterer is..lol

 

[NickH]

Surely you find it easier to deal with a hole rather than a hump !

 

[DHTiling]

well what can you say to that...hole?,,or hump?....

both plz.......dave...lol lol lol lol .....

 

[devonmark]

hump the hole..

 

[Fekin]

Update. Been back to the customers this evening, kitchen is near enough fully fitted now "joiner was just starting to fit it the other day when I went to measure up", that's why I couldn't prep the walls before it was fitted.

Customer is in a rush, as ever, and really wants mosaics instead of say square ceramics etc, but I've told her the walls cannot take mosaics as they are, even with filling the deep holes first as the whole splashback wall needs leveling out to take mosaics.

With new kitchen just been fitted she don't want anything messy doing to the walls now like plastering "wouldn't wait a few weeks anyway" so shes now thinking about me plasterboarding it out, but it will create a ridge obviously where the board runs under and past the wall units to wrap into the window.

That's why I was looking at some rapid setting render of some sorts, that I can buy locally to give me a decent back ground to tile too.

So bal rapid set sounds good, just have to find a stockist

 

[DHTiling]

hi adam.. jewsons will be able to get it for you....have you thought of recommending a mosaic effect tile..some are 300mm x 200mm in size and when grouted just look like mosaic sheets..but lot easier to fit.......dave....

 

[Fekin]

I didn't actually, I'll call her tomorrow and tell her, cheers dave

Gaz, does your store stock many mosaic effect ceramics ?

 

[DHTiling]

no probs..anytime.......dave...this the type i'm on about..but come in loads of colours..

 

[Varley]

Instead of plasterboard you could fix some 6mm backerboard, less of a ridge, just another option.

 

[GazTech]

I didn't actually, I'll call her tomorrow and tell her, cheers dave

Gaz, does your store stock many mosaic effect ceramics ?

Mosaico..Blue,white,cotta,cream.......faux,beige and blue, and cristallo,orange,white ,blue,yellow all are 20cm square and all topps quality!

 

[DHTiling]

Nice one gazza just what the doctor ordered................dace..

 

[Fekin]

Excellent, cheers guys

 

[Varley]

Mosaico..Blue,white,cotta,cream.......faux,beige and blue, and cristallo,orange,white ,blue,yellow all are 20cm square and all topps quality!

That all?? LMAO

 

[CJ]

Need to watch some of them............fake grout lines, that need to be grouted sometimes don't like grout :icon9:

 

[Fekin]

Just thought summit though...

I'll have to try and match the fake grout colour with the real gear won't I,

 

[Yorkie]

Is it a BAL product in paticular that your'e looking for?
Ardex AM100 is a very good product. Start by applying a skim / bonding coat of 2ml then you can apply upto 20ml in one go and its ready to receive tile after around 2 hours. You can also do a check on the ARDEX site to find your nearest stockist alternativley give me a call and i'll get some out to you (if you hav'nt already done job) we delivery many products nationwide.

Apologies for giving an answer thats already been said, Damn Iv'e gota remember to read every page and post instead of just the question , I 'm new to this tinternet lol