Setting out Herringbone pattern

[Jimbobble]

Never done a herringbone pattern before.
What to watch out for please boyos?
Ta,
Jim.

 

[Flintstone]

Spend lots of time measuring, it's tricky setting out but once your into it it's ok

 

[Andy Allen]

Walls or floors and what size tile..

90 or 45 degrees to the room?

 

[Jimbobble]

Walls or floors and what size tile..

90 or 45 degrees to the room?

45

 

[Jimbobble]

Spend lots of time measuring, it's tricky setting out but once your into it it's ok

Same as a half bond metro set out but more to think about? Going to have a play about when I get a spare moment tomorrow. The B&Q video was funny

 

[Flintstone]

Much more complicated if it's on the 45! Wall or floor ?

 

[Spare Tool]

Same as a half bond metro set out but more to think about? Going to have a play about when I get a spare moment tomorrow. The B&Q video was funny

Its only the same as half bond metro set out if its 90 degrees, for 45 I'd be striking a line up centre of wall then drylay a row or two on the floor and measure off it then transfer measures to wall...if it is walls that is?

 

[Spacey360]

Dont start with tile points on centre line or you'll get different size cuts either side

Theres 2 ways set out herringbone on a 45
First is to draw a line down the centre of a tile at 45 degree's and line that up on your centre line. Cuts will be equal sizes but opposite way around.

Second way to get the cuts the same way so they are like wings ( best way imo) is a bit more complicated to explain easy to show. Set two tiles herringboned and measure the distance between the points of each tiles but parallel. Then quater it and measure that distance off your centre line and thats you new line to start from off the points. If that makes sense

For example I use alot of 3x9 inch parquet tiles so id be starting 26mm off my centre line to get equal cuts on each side going the same way

 

[Blunt Tool]

Dont start with tile points on centre line or you'll get different size cuts either side

Theres 2 ways set out herringbone on a 45
First is to draw a line down the centre of a tile at 45 degree's and line that up on your centre line. Cuts will be equal sizes but opposite way around.

Second way to get the cuts the same way so they are like wings ( best way imo) is a bit more complicated to explain easy to show. Set two tiles herringboned and measure the distance between the points of each tiles but parallel. Then quater it and measure that distance off your centre line and thats you new line to start from off the points. If that makes sense

For example I use alot of 3x9 inch parquet tiles so id be starting 26mm off my centre line to get equal cuts on each side going the same way

Measure room in mm at precisely 23 centigrade, take latitude and longitude readings and times by length and breadth of room mm and divide by 23, find square root then calculate the curvature of the earth and take note of time add 4 then divide by 2, this will give you starting point!

 

[Spacey360]

Thats the closest point you measure off btw

 

[Andy Allen]

You could always frame the wall or floor makes life easier for the cuts....
This is one I did last year..

 

[Dumbo]

Just do what I do when setting out and guess . It always works

Measure room in mm at precisely 23 centigrade, take latitude and longitude readings and times by length and breadth of room mm and divide by 23, find square root then calculate the curvature of the earth and take note of time add 4 then divide by 2, this will give you starting point!

Did you ever work for a technical dept of an adhesive company because those are the questions they asked me when I said their adhesive had failed.

 

[Jimbobble]

You could always frame the wall or floor makes life easier for the cuts....
This is one I did last year..

View attachment 93052

Very nice.
It's a dog tooth finish on the top they're after.
I still cannot see the logic in starting in the middle & hoping for the best. Goes against everything I was taught in setting out properly. Surely there's a better way than starting in the mid point & hoping to avoid little pieces?
I'll keep the border technique in mind for future jobs, looks really smart that. Nice choice of tiles too 🙂

 

[Spare Tool]

Very nice.
It's a dog tooth finish on the top they're after.
I still cannot see the logic in starting in the middle & hoping for the best. Goes against everything I was taught in setting out properly. Surely there's a better way than starting in the mid point & hoping to avoid little pieces?
I'll keep the border technique in mind for future jobs, looks really smart that. Nice choice of tiles too 🙂

Dry lay and a tape measure or staff Jim...not hope for the best 😉

 

[Blunt Tool]

Ping chalk lines diagonal corner to corner, check for square, then staff out is what I'd be doing, simple and easy!

 

[Spacey360]

Wow
Tilers who dont know how to set out tiles

 

[Spare Tool]

Wow
Tilers who dont know how to set out tiles

Usually me and local doing the fishing round here...not biting spaceman 😀

 

[Dumbo]

Wow
Tilers who dont know how to set out tiles

I never set out I just guess it .

 

[hmtiling]

You could always frame the wall or floor makes life easier for the cuts....
This is one I did last year..

View attachment 93052[/QUOTE

You could always frame the wall or floor makes life easier for the cuts....
This is one I did last year..

View attachment 93052

was that your jotm Andy?

 

[Tim Saunders]

Takes a bit of thinking about but once you get going it's easy. Be VERY precise about your 45 cuts..it only takes one dodgy cut to upset the lot

 

[Jimbobble]

Enjoyed doing the herringbone a lot.
Have to say some great advice which was ACE!
& some total d**s**t advice in the mix too.
I'm wondering are there really tilers out there who can't set out properly?
Took me a while to get the jist of the pattern but realised it was the same as any other set out when I got into it.
Thanks for the help, always useful using this forum 🙂

On another note; a mate got me onto this arty stuff in London which I quite like.
gateways Adam Nathaniel Furman - Google Search - https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=gateways+Adam+Nathaniel+Furman&client=firefox-b&sa=X&dcr=0&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ved=0ahUKEwjktI7AgbnWAhVoBsAKHS5QCH4Q7AkIRg&biw=1101&bih=780#imgrc=QV4vXYRLX0S0DM:

If you can be bothered digging about there's a more in depth video online where they walk through it (can't find the link sorry).
& there's a herringbone pattern in there which is awesome!
It's hard to describe but double diagonal, descending vertical over one tile width (or something like that - lovely work though)

 

[Gabor Nagyhazi]

You could always frame the wall or floor makes life easier for the cuts....
This is one I did last year..

View attachment 93052

Did you frame it first before laying the herringbone?

 

[Chris_32]

Wow
Tilers who dont know how to set out tiles

full tile off the wheelbarrow, that’s what I was taught

 

[Tile life]

You could always frame the wall or floor makes life easier for the cuts....
This is one I did last year..

View attachment 93052

Beautiful