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Hi Dan,

I think that would be a good idea, but I think I've read somewhere that you can't use epoxy grout with the Impey Tile safe tanking system. I don't know how practical it would be to rip up the tile safe tanking and put some other tanking down that you can use epoxy grout with. I'm wondering if it's the adhesive or sealer that's been used that's causing the problem.
 
Re: Problems with grout not drying on shower floor expert advice neede

underfloor heating is recommended with impey wetrooms. This allows the grout to fully dry after use, Was this fitted?
 
Re: Problems with grout not drying on shower floor expert advice neede

Hi, I have underfloor heating but not in the shower area. I don't think it would be possible to change that now.
 
Re: Problems with grout not drying on shower floor expert advice neede

Hi Angela,
Looks like he has siliconed around the floor drain. That's a bad idea as water that's seeped into the grout cannot work it's way past the Silicon and into the drain from the sides (will cause the Silicon to develop mould. You said in that area, it didn't lighten, even after 2 weeks without use...). Also, Silicon must never come into contact with TileSafe. You're right too, you cannot use epoxy grout with TileSafe (but you can with Impey's newer WaterGuard tanking system).

As for the sporadic discolouration of the grout in the other areas, water is getting in (which it will, that's normal), but it's not drying out evenly (that's life, water does what it wants, not what we might want it to do. Capillary action means water will go wherever it wants, and you might get extra water being drawn to an area from another area, and sitting there and taking longer to dry out). You've confirmed that it pretty much all dried out once you left it for two weeks. If there are lots of people in your household and no one wipes the water down or dries the floor with a towel after showering, then it's highly likely that it never gets a chance to properly dry out.

Wiping down with a squeegee, and drying off with a towel is a good way to speed up the drying process (might sound odd, but give it a try. I do that at home, on granite, and the grout returns to normal colour within an hour or so. If I don't wipe down, then it can be darker for half a day, and cause the stone itself to go darker, in lines, about 1cm either side of the grout lines).

Please don't rip your entire floor out, it's really not necessary, and you'll probably have the same thing second time round, unless you went with epoxy.
 
Re: Problems with grout not drying on shower floor expert advice neede

If the Tile safe tanking system is the black self adhesive roofing felt type stuff then I have seen the grout between mosaic tiles become cracked and retain moisture several times. If it is what I think it is then it remains soft and deformable under the mosic tilng and point loading applied to the mosic causes almost invisible cracks in the surrounding grout which then allow deeper moisture penetration which in turn will take longer to dry out. If the mosaic was on mesh backing then the problem will first be seen on the joints between the mesh sheets as these joints are not strengthened by mesh tying the mosaic to the adjacent mosaic piece.
 
Re: Problems with grout not drying on shower floor expert advice neede

If the Tile safe tanking system is the black self adhesive roofing felt type stuff then I have seen the grout between mosaic tiles become cracked and retain moisture several times. If it is what I think it is then it remains soft and deformable under the mosic tilng and point loading applied to the mosic causes almost invisible cracks in the surrounding grout which then allow deeper moisture penetration which in turn will take longer to dry out. If the mosaic was on mesh backing then the problem will first be seen on the joints between the mesh sheets as these joints are not strengthened by mesh tying the mosaic to the adjacent mosaic piece.

Hi SJPurdy it is the black self adhesive roofing felt type stuff. The tiler s coming back to regrout, but I'm not sure this will solve the problem.the dark grout is spreading so more and more water is obviously getting behind there. Is it a case of ripping it all out and starting again?
 

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