Discuss Tiling Rates Per Square Meter / Per Day - How much do tilers charge? in the Tiling Forum area at TilersForums.com

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Its always the same old same though is it not
This is the thing about this topic that I can’t get my head around. I’m sure I’m not on my own in this thought but I go to work everyday with a view to earning as much as I possibly can and obviously without compromise on quality because in the long run that would decimate me.
From what I can gather by all the above posts were talking about standard tiling as a base line of say £35/40ish m2 and a day rate of £175/200ish m2. What’s that all about??
On an average day with standard say 600 porc which is what I’m using as a base line, how can you not be fitting say 15m2 per day? Which would equate to £525/600 per day yet many in here are happy to work for £175/200 per day! doesn't make sense to me! Even if you were a lazy so and so and only laid 10m2 it still doesn’t make sense. I get prep etc being a day rate but I read from this that some don’t mind doing average tiling on a day rate? Wtf!
is it not the same old same though lee, day rate its a nice easy day, price work its all about earning the money.
I don’t every let my quality drop wether its price or DR , im pretty much pretty good in all my jobs.
But as always , tge better looking the tile the better looking the job, a good looking tile can make a decent tiler look exceptional;)
 

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I like dayrate cuz you get paid for everything, unloading, mixing, carrying tiles,nipping the shop cuz you've ran out of spacers or picking grout up, having your lunch, can't get stitched up with bad screeding and the inevitable can of worms on bathroom strip outs...no rushing about for going on a bag of sand a week suits me :thumbsup: unfortunately though as with metre rate...no sick pay!! :rolleyes:
 

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I priced a job yesterday via Whatsapp so I could see it. Jobs in Sheffield, I'm Nottingham. 1200x1200 15mm porcs in a new build large house. About 70 mtrs. Priced it at £30 psm labour only, sent it off by text, reply was a big laughing emoji and "you need to be nearer to £20"
 

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What you doing coming on my patch aytiling!:D
Where abouts in Sheffield was the job ?
 

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I priced a job yesterday via Whatsapp so I could see it. Jobs in Sheffield, I'm Nottingham. 1200x1200 15mm porcs in a new build large house. About 70 mtrs. Priced it at £30 psm labour only, sent it off by text, reply was a big laughing emoji and "you need to be nearer to £20"
What you quoted is more than a fair price respect aytiling
 

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I priced a job yesterday via Whatsapp so I could see it. Jobs in Sheffield, I'm Nottingham. 1200x1200 15mm porcs in a new build large house. About 70 mtrs. Priced it at £30 psm labour only, sent it off by text, reply was a big laughing emoji and "you need to be nearer to £20"
I get that on nearly all my jobs, thats why I can’t get my head around people saying £50 m2 or i stay at home :( , london maybe, but most places in britain will tell you to do one i recon
 

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I think we should set up a Tilers union and start setting prices across the board so we can all have new vans and more holidays. I try and aim at £250 a day and £70-£100 for glass mosaic £45-£60 for porcelain but generally we look at each job individually and price according location size of property and quality of cars on the driveway :)
 

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Great seeing this thread. I live in Oz but a new partner in Uk means im living between both worlds. Rates in Oz are very similar to yours. More floor screeding to wet areas instead of underlay
Oz tends to have more full height tiling and larger main floors so while the rates are similar we stick on more area.
Unlicenced foreign workers run by one main guy cause a lot of problems nowadays as they arent playing by the rules and getting away with it. Legitimate guys have higher overheads and struggle to compete. Builders turn a blind eye to get the jobs done then fix up the poor work later.
I hope this helps?
 

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Prices will vary in areas you live Just makes me laugh when I get a phone call been tiling for 6 weeks out of made up college and they told him you will be able to charge £140.00 a day what does that say I done 5 years and it took and my biggest pay day in the 5y was 20.00 per day lol 15 years to be able to charge 140.00 -40 years £275.00 per day +vat will no complaints
Just shows made up college are only doing it for the money at a charge of 2000-2500 per 6 weeks
 

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Why would you ever skimp on quality for the sake of saving the customer a few quid? I understand it can be difficult to turn work down if you're quiet, but surely if you cut your quality, you cut your reputation and build a rod for your own back?
Simply because there are different owners, with different bodgets.

I did only a bathroom with only full tiles, not cuts, in my life. Took me 2 months to complete it.

Should I expect another 20 yrs before I take the next similar job from a customer that could afford to pay something like this?

I don't want to move too far, I am living in a small town, sometimes going to London, but only for old customers.

I don't mind the reputation, if the customer needs a job to look fine and last it obviously takes more time to prepare and tile it, if not, I tell them by writing that's not the suitable for
their job. If they agree, than I do not mind to tile with 4 mm spacers instead of 2mm, for example. If I do not take it, they will offer to the next handyman they find. There are few people with houses worthing 2-3 millions around me. If the customer owe an old house where there is nothing straight, plaster, decoration are awful, there is a non sense to tile top quality, they do not want to pay for it. Many do not want to pay for tanking, for example, even if I seriously reduce the warranty for it....

There are many people who want flat and levelled tiled surfaces, but they offer poor level. I can tile directly, no mater what level is, or take my time to level the support first. This work takes time that should be paid. This increase the price by sqm, even to double, not many are happy to pay it.

As told before, if I don't want to take it, they will find the next handy to do it or they will do it by themself, they won't call you to pay you the double for some more quality....
 

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Lee im from the same area as yourself and most guys around bangor ar around 25-30
Yes but I’m referring to aytiling’s post where he’s expected to fit 1200x1200x15mm for £20mtr. What would you price blind for 70mtr floor in that gear?
 

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Yes but I’m referring to aytiling’s post where he’s expected to fit 1200x1200x15mm for £20mtr. What would you price blind for 70mtr floor in that gear?
First off they could be a nightmare to cut but roughly
Yes but I’m referring to aytiling’s post where he’s expected to fit 1200x1200x15mm for £20mtr. What would you price blind for 70mtr floor in that gear?
First off they could be a nightmare to cut but roughly £2000 . And yourself?
 

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First off they could be a nightmare to cut but roughly

First off they could be a nightmare to cut but roughly £2000 . And yourself?
It’s definitely a two man job with tiles that thickness and depending on layout I wouldn’t be too far from where your at also, £2-2.5k labour only.
 

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It’s definitely a two man job with tiles that thickness and depending on layout I wouldn’t be too far from where your at also, £2-2.5k labour only.
The problem in northern Ireland though is men from the west north west are still willing to work for £80 a day and some of them are very good
 

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The problem in northern Ireland though is men from the west north west are still willing to work for £80 a day and some of them are very good
I know the type of guys you’re talking about.
For a start they aren’t filling their own vans with fuel and driving to where this type of work is and as you well know they’ve at least another source of income which also cancels out a few of the expenses that the rest of us have to pay. It would cost them at least £40-50 a day in fuel.
I’ve seen quite a bit of the type of work they leave and for the most part it’s average, it’d be ok for someone who doesn’t know any better. It’s lashed in and often with bad prep and disregard to expansion etc. The standard is par for the course for commercial subbies who don’t have to think about the job and just do as they’re told and clock up meterage.
I personally am not interested in competing with those types of guys and the above mentioned job is a very different ball game to what the £80 a day men are familiar with.
We’re comparing prices for a legit tiler with all his own gear and transport arriving to do a job that will be prepped and tiled to last a lifetime.
Those type of guys you mention do have a place in our industry but that type of work and scenario is like comparing apples and oranges , they’re both fruit.
 

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I know the type of guys you’re talking about.
For a start they aren’t filling their own vans with fuel and driving to where this type of work is and as you well know they’ve at least another source of income which also cancels out a few of the expenses that the rest of us have to pay. It would cost them at least £40-50 a day in fuel.
I’ve seen quite a bit of the type of work they leave and for the most part it’s average, it’d be ok for someone who doesn’t know any better. It’s lashed in and often with bad prep and disregard to expansion etc. The standard is par for the course for commercial subbies who don’t have to think about the job and just do as they’re told and clock up meterage.
I personally am not interested in competing with those types of guys and the above mentioned job is a very different ball game to what the £80 a day men are familiar with.
We’re comparing prices for a legit tiler with all his own gear and transport arriving to do a job that will be prepped and tiled to last a lifetime.
Those type of guys you mention do have a place in our industry but that type of work and scenario is like comparing apples and oranges , they’re both fruit.
Have you worked with any? ,
I do understand what is your point but I've seen guys that do very high quality work and will never leave there boss because they fear they may never get any work outside their circle
 

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Have you worked with any? ,
I do understand what is your point but I've seen guys that do very high quality work and will never leave there boss because they fear they may never get any work outside their circle
Not directly with them but in the same buildings at the same time, new shopping centres etc. They just have to get in the van in the morning, they’re lifted and laid for the large part. As I said it’s courses for horses but the job and scenario in question is very different than from the £80 a day work you refer to imo.
 
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